Norwegian painter Edvard Munch once said, "Art comes from joy and pain ... but mostly from pain." It's a sentiment that Leonardo DiCaprio knows well.

"Television interviewers maybe don't read much," the 41-year-old actor tells The Japan Times when referring to one interviewer who recently asked if "The Revenant" had been "a hard shoot" — a fact that has been well-documented in the media.

"I had to pause, like kind of stunned," DiCaprio says. "So he breaks the pause and says, 'It was grueling, right?' and I say, 'Yeah, "grueling" can describe it ... and then some."