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Question of negligence hangs over nuclear firms in U.S. case over Fukushima fallout

Dear Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry Yoichi Miyazawa,

As you may be aware, a federal judge in the U.S. recently ruled that a class-action lawsuit filed by about 200 U.S. Navy sailors can proceed against Tokyo Electric Power Co. and other defendants they blame for a variety of ailments caused by radiation exposure following the nuclear reactor meltdowns at Fukushima No. 1.

The sailors allege that Tepco knowingly and negligently gave false and misleading information concerning the true condition of the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant to the public, including the U.S. military. They further allege that Tepco knew the sailors on board the USS Ronald Reagan would be exposed to unsafe levels of radiation because Tepco was aware three nuclear reactors at the site had already melted down.

In this connection, the lawsuit notes that on Dec. 14, 2013, Naoto Kan, Japan’s prime minister at the time of the disaster, told a gathering of journalists regarding the first meltdown: “People think it was March 12 but the first meltdown occurred five hours after the earthquake.”

The sailors in question were participating in Operation Tomodachi, providing humanitarian relief in response to the Japanese government’s calls for assistance. In accordance with the U.S.-Japan Security Treaty, these sailors literally risked their lives to aid and protect the people of Japan.

The sailors accuse Tepco of negligence, failure to warn of the dangers, and design defects in the construction and installation of the reactors, among a total of nine claims for damages. To date, the sailors have experienced such illnesses as leukemia, ulcers, brain cancer, brain tumors, testicular cancer, dysfunctional uterine bleeding, thyroid illnesses, stomach ailments and a host of other complaints unusual in such young adults.

One of the major questions to be decided by the lawsuit is who will pay for the military members’ ongoing and possibly lifelong medical treatment. In addition to addressing specific illnesses, funding will be required for future medical monitoring for themselves and their children, including monitoring for possible radiation-induced genetic mutations. Some of the radiological particles inhaled by these service personnel have long half-lives, from six to 50 or even 100 years.

Needless to say, the Japanese government has a wealth of information about what actually happened, and when, at Fukushima No. 1. Thus it would seem legally as well as morally appropriate for the government to share its Fukushima-related knowledge with the Federal Court in the Southern District of California.

This could be done, for example, in the form of an amicus curiae brief — that is, a brief submitted by someone not a party to a case who nevertheless possesses relevant information that may assist the court. My first question to you, Minister Miyazawa, is: Are you and the Japanese government willing to submit such a brief?

It is significant that the builders of the Fukushima No. 1 reactors — General Electric, EBASCO, Toshiba and Hitachi — are also defendants. This is because the reactors for Units 1, 2 and 6 were supplied by General Electric, those for Units 3 and 5 by Toshiba, and Unit 4 by Hitachi. General Electric, however, designed all six reactors, and the architectural plans were done by EBASCO.

In particular, GE knew decades ago that the design of its Mark I reactors installed at Fukushima No. 1 was faulty. Thirty-five years ago, Dale G. Bridenbaugh and two of his colleagues at General Electric resigned from their jobs after becoming convinced that the Mark I’s design was so flawed it could lead to a devastating accident. They publicly testified before the U.S. Congress on the inability of the Mark I to handle the immense pressures that would result if the reactor lost cooling power.

Their concerns proved all too accurate at Fukushima No. 1, a disaster that has yet to end given the continued massive radioactive contamination of the ocean.

In light of this, Minister Miyazawa, I end this message with one final question: Why hasn’t the Japanese government, like the American sailors, filed its own lawsuits against these same companies to determine their legal liability? In other words, why are the Japanese people being forced to pay for the possibly negligent actions of some of the world’s largest corporations?

BRIAN VICTORIA

Yellow Springs, Ohio

Brian A. Victoria is a professor of Japanese Studies at Antioch University in Yellow Springs, Ohio. Send your comments or submissions (of between 500-700 words, addressed to local, regional or national politicians, officials or other authorities) here: community@japantimes.co.jp

  • yellowroz

    I’ve been following the Fukushima disaster closely, with particular attention to the groundwater/seawater interface.

    The earthquake-tsunami was a horrific natural disaster. While there are preventive/protective measures TEPCO could have taken in advance to reduce damage, I do not believe they could have foreseen the hydrogen explosions sufficiently to ‘warn’ the USS Ronald Reagan. The relief efforts our Navy was heroically undertaking assisted Japan in recovering from almost 16,000 dead and enormous physical disruption.

    A voluntary settlement should be reached by all parties to establish a fund to address these heroes health effects and monitoring of their children. Money much better spent than on lawyers.

    • igrandunifier

      That’s not how the nuclear industry works. It’s trump card is to ‘deny-n-deny’ like what nuke-numbed-nut ‘starviking’ is doing…

      • Starviking

        You’re such a polite person…I guess you need to resort to insults because you do not have the capability of responding rationally to people?

      • igrandunifier

        You r but a shill for the nuke industry, for sure. Only a shill like u who is paided will take n have the time to attack every anti-nuke comments on these sites. Got to hand it to you guys. U r not talking science, particularly science of death of nuclear power; u r talking about the survival of the out-dated nuclear power for consumer use.

      • Starviking

        Well, igrandunifier, I reply to comments on these that interest me, and as someone with a science background who lived through 3/11, the anti-nuke comments interest me.

        What is interesting about your replies, are that verifiable facts, both scientific and general, are ignored – and you get straight to the task of attacking the reputation of the person involved. This is sad, as from your chosen Disquis icon – a Rockwell Space Shuttle Orbiter – one would assume that you were interested in science, and base your arguments on that.

      • Starviking

        Well, igrandunifier, I reply to comments on these that interest me, and as someone with a science background who lived through 3/11, the anti-nuke comments interest me.

        What is interesting about your replies, are that verifiable facts, both scientific and general, are ignored – and you get straight to the task of attacking the reputation of the person involved. This is sad, as from your chosen Disquis icon – a Rockwell Space Shuttle Orbiter – one would assume that you were interested in science, and base your arguments on that.

      • igrandunifier

        Here’s your empirical scientific observation STARVEDVIKING

        “Never heard of so much sickness & death in such a short period” says Fukushima evacuee — Writes about strange diseases in young people, deadly tumors and hemorrhages, pets missing hair, child losing all their fingernails, polydactyl baby — Doctor: My friends are dying of cancer, one after another
        Published: October 21st, 2014 at 2:26 pm ET
        By ENENews Email Article 641 comments

        , Oct. 15, 2014: Mrs. Junko Honda… was a successful beauty salon owner who ran two salons… She recently [compiled the] unusual symptoms that she had heard about over the past three years… whose veracity she has been able to ascertain.

        “I had never heard of so much sickness and death in such a short period of time” -Honda

        Babies, Children, Young Adults

        Sep ’11: Child… had nosebleeds very often… many others at school who had nose bleeding

        Jun ’12: Child had headaches and nausea since the accident

        Apr ’13: Friend of an evacuee gave birth to a polydactyl child [birth defect, extra fingers/toes]

        Jul ’13: Younger friend of an evacuee… got ill with cancer

        Mar ’14: Relative [in] middle school… got ill with rheumatism [and] medicine doesn’t work

        Lymph, Thymus, Thyroid Gland Problems

        Apr ’11: I felt strange feeling in my lymph nodes… salon staff also felt the same

        Sep ’11: My friend’s father died with a tumor in the lymph glands

        Sep ’11: Gynecologist mentioned there was an increase of lymph tumors

        Jan ’13: Child of an evacuee [had] unsubsidized thyroid exam… thymus gland was swollen

        Jan ’13: Several children… from Fukushima [also diagnosed with swollen] thymus gland

        Sep ’13: Child of an evacuee had an unsubsidized thyroid examination… they found many cysts

        Oct ’13: Friend, an evacuee age 35, developed thyroid cancer

        Mar ’14: Friend of an evacuee, in her 30s, had thyroid surgery

        Unusual Skin, Hair, Nail Problems

        Apr ’11: Hair of our pets [dog & cat] become uneven because of hair loss to an unusual degree

        Apr ’11: Reddish eczema on my daughter’s face [which] stayed until we evacuated

        Sep ’11: Hairdresser friend and her sister have suffered dermatologic eczema since the accident

        Jun ’12: [Child’s mother] experienced hair loss and… had sparser hair

        Jun ’12: All the fingernails of a child evacuee from Sugakawa fell off after the accident

        Adults Under Retirement Age

        Sep ’11: Customer in her 40s got ill with a disease that cannot renew blood

        Sep ’11: Woman in her 30s died from cardiac arrest

        Aug ’12: My relative died suddenly of subarachnoid hemorrhage… in his 30s

        Dec ’12: Resident in his 30s developed a tumor

        Dec ’12: Resident in her 40s developed a tumor and died

        Jan ’13: Doctor [said] his friends have been dying with cancer one after another

        Mar ’13: Man in his 30s died suddenly

        Mar ’13: 5 customers… had funerals of close family in very short period… 3 were in their 50s

        Oct ’13: Male friend who was doing decontamination work died suddenly

        See Video: ‘Hell of Fukushima in the immediate vicinity of the children’ (only in Japanese)

        N as u NNNs would say u can’t blame that on radiation. Why is all that secrecy going on in Japan? No Doctor is allowed to talk publicly on the negative health effects of Diaichii’s radiation up on millions of Japanese.

      • Sam Gilman

        Who owns ENEnews?

      • igrandunifier

        Who’s paying u?

      • Sam Gilman

        Who pays me? No one attached to anyone in the energy sector in any way whatsoever. I have no financial stake in anything related to the energy sector at all. I am interested in the wellbeing of people because I try to be a decent human being.

        So, now we’ve got that out of the way, why don’t you answer the question? Who runs ENEnews?

        I can tell you who funds all of the science I provide to you. Not that ENEnews is science, but if you can’t even tell me who runs the website, that’s kind of a problem, isn’t it? I had a good hard search, and it’s a lawyer who appears to have virtually zero online presence (not even in cases recorded on line, and just an unadvertised office in a shopping mall in, iirc, Utah. So what does he do for income? Given that nuclear energy replaces fossil fuels like oil and coal, I’d really like to know what he does for income.

        I’m not going to ask you where your income comes from as I’m quite willing to believe that no one pays you to write what you do.

      • igrandunifier

        Ther’s no decency in nuke power for cosumer use.

      • Sam Gilman

        You can’t answer this simple question about your favourite information source – one that I would be happy to answer about any of mine – who owns it, and who funds it. Instead of answering the question, you try to change the topic.

        I think an important point has been proven against you and how you operate. Thank you.

      • igrandunifier

        Let’s talk science SV.
        “Daiichi boss Masao Yoshida shouted 50 seconds later[after the initial explosion]: “We’ve got a big problem. The No. 3 reactor just blew. Probably a steam explosion.”Alternate translation
        Yoshida: “Main office! Main office! Main office Main office, it’s awful, awful. The unit 3 has exploded now. I think it’s probably steam.”
        Masao Yoshida, the plant manager who ordered the dowse of the sea water to attemp to cool down the TOTAL melt down, n rushed in to the expolded plant to try to help with the cooling off, die less than 2 years later of esophagus cancer. It was TEPCo who announced his death was not related to radiation-an out-of-line clam from TEPCo. N SV, u want to lay some mony down that I say u can not find out truely who were the other workers who went into the destroyed plant with M. Yoshida, their health records, n their present health condition, from TEPCo, nor the Japanese Government?

      • igrandunifier

        1945

        Alvin M. Weinberg, tells the Senate’s Special Committee on Atomic Energy that “Atomic power can cure as well as kill. It can fertilize and enrich a region as well as devastate it. It can widen man’s horizons as well as force him back into the cave.”

        1956

        “Former AEC official, John C. Bugher, declares at an American Public Health Association meeting that an atomic power program would present a much greater health threat than nuclear weapons, due to large quantities of radioactive chemicals emitted into the environment during power generation.”

        1957

        “Karl Z. Morgan in testimony before a Congressional subcommittee states that there is “no safe level of exposure” to radiation.”

        Karl Ziegler Morgan (September 27, 1907 – June 8, 1999), was an American physicist who was one of the founders of the field of radiation health physics. Late in life, after a long career in the Manhattan Project and at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, he became a critic of nuclear power and nuclear weapons production.

      • Sam Gilman

        If you believe you are relying on science, why don’t you provide links instead of making baseless accusations at people who do provide links to scientific opinion?

        Several environmentalists, particularly those who are most vocal about global warming, such as James Hansen of NASA, support the use of nuclear power as part of our attempt to mitigate global warming. so even your premise that only “shills” dispute your views is false.

        If you do actually have a strong case, you shouldn’t have a problem backing yourself up. Why not try that?

      • igrandunifier

        Here’s your other scientific facts Sam.

        “Daiichi boss Masao Yoshida shouted 50 seconds later[after the initial explosion]: “We’ve got a big problem. The No. 3 reactor just blew. Probably a steam explosion.”Alternate translation
        Yoshida: “Main office! Main office! Main office Main office, it’s awful, awful. The unit 3 has exploded now. I think it’s probably steam.”
        Masao Yoshida, the plant manager who ordered the dowse of the sea water to attemp to cool down the TOTAL melt down, n rushed in to the expolded plant to try to help with the cooling off, die less than 2 years later of esophagus cancer. It was TEPCo who announced his death was not related to radiation-an out-of-line clam from TEPCo. N SV, u want to lay some mony down that I say u can not find out truely who were the other workers who went into the destroyed plant with M. Yoshida, their health records, n their present health condition, from TEPCo, nor the Japanese Government?

      • Starviking

        What scientific paper is that from?

      • igrandunifier

        It’s the actual transcrip from the exploed NPP 3 incident. And Mr. Yoshida’s death was a big news with small prints,in Japan n US.

      • Sam Gilman

        Seriously, that’s all you can say to someone relying on science?

        Let’s say someone sued you because your rudeness gave them a broken leg. You were certainly rude, and they certainly have a broken leg. You might object, saying “rudeness” doesn’t cause broken legs!

        Rudeness aside, would that make you a numb-nut?

        It’s the same issue here. The science is a bit more complicated, but the point is the same: the conditions these sailors have do not look like the results of radiation exposure from March 2011, including the time frame, the kinds of conditions, and the levels of exposure. The sailors do not challenge the DoD radiation reports, btw.

      • igrandunifier

        Here are some of my sources SAM: can u swallow them?:
        “Yiuri Bandazhevsky a Soviet Scientist who was imprisoned for publishing his scientific finding on how badly the Chernobyl’s spilled radiation have negatively effected lives in all spectrums.
        Chernobyl: the consequence of the catastrophe for the people and the environment. publish by NY Academy of science 2009.
        Authors: Alexey Yablokov, V B Nesterenko, Alexey V Nesterenko
        The the book have analyze over 5000 scientific papers published from the onset of the accident to 2004, and concluded that over a million people have died resulted from the Chernobyl radiation. The government n the nuke industry claimed only 4000 casualties from the accident.”

        Governmental deny and stiff-arming-info of NUKE-DEATH method of practice are known to us who have been informed.

      • Sam Gilman

        That book was withdrawn by the publishers NYAS following an inquiry. Here’s what they said about this book:

        In no sense did Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences or the New York Academy of Sciences commission this work; nor by its publication does the Academy validate the claims made in the original Slavic language publications cited in the translated papers. Importantly, the translated volume has not been formally peer‐reviewed by the New York Academy of Sciences or by anyone else.

        This repudiation was accompanied by reviews from independent scientists who trashed it as worse than useless.

        It turns out some anti-nuclear activists attached to NYAS had bypassed all review procedures. It was something of a scandal.

        So, instead, do you have any peer reviewed science? The Chernobyl Forum and other WHO & UNSCEAR reports are taken as the gold standard by researchers. Have you looked at them?

      • igrandunifier

        It’s far more unlikely for Bandazhevsky to “make up all his scientific reports” than you, SAM, who is defending the nuke industy’s lies. Show me that publication of repudiation, for I’ve referenced 2 publications above. How r u going to talk about peer review when Yiuri Bandazhevsky is the only scientist there at the time who saw n is alerted to the negative health effect of the radiation around, n followed up with the research. If theres’ nothing to hide, he needn’t be imprisoned. Just like the State Secrecy Law put forth by PM Abe, NNNs in power will flex their evil ways to silence any negative effects of Fukushima’s nuclear power-plants accident’s holocaust-like paying u to try to silence us.

      • igrandunifier

        They have u shill guys work in teams now, I see.

      • Sam Gilman

        Your problem is not that anyone is a “shill”. Your problem is that you’ve not provided any science. You’ve mentioned one discredited book that wasn’t peer-reviewed and was withdrawn from publication, and a notoriously silly website owned by a mysterious off-grid lawyer with unknown funding.

      • igrandunifier

        American Genetic Association, Aug 14, 2014: [S]tudies are now beginning to reveal serious biological effects of the Fukushima radiation. A series of articles summarizing these studies has now been published in the Journal of Heredity. These describe widespread impacts, ranging from population declines to genetic damage. Common to all of the published studies is the hypothesis that chronic (low-dose) exposure to ionizing radiation results in genetic damage and increased mutation rates […] Hayashi et al. 2014 documented the effects of radiation on rice After three days, a number of effects were observed. Taira et al. 2014 examined the response of the pale grass blue butterfly. They found size reduction, slowed growth, high mortality and morphological abnormality. A review of genetic and ecological studies for a range of other species revealed significant consequences of radiation. Population censuses of birds, butterflies, and cicadas at Fukushima showed major declines attributable to radiation exposure.

      • Sam Gilman

        Ah, I was wondering when we would get onto this group. Here’s how we distinguish between good and bad science:

        Is it done by people of good standing, in the appropriate forums, and with a good reception amongst their peers?

        Viewed from that perspective, pale grass blue butterflies and bird studies have severe problems with them.

        1. These researchers haven’t been published in any journal with radiation biology specialists on the editorial staff, and have frequently exploited the new generation of fast turnaround journals that have very weak peer review. The Journal of Heredity, for example, appears never to have published a single article previously even mentioning the biological effects of Chernobyl. Various iterations of this research make simple errors with radiation measurements – confusing Becquerels and Grays, for example, showing how the work hasn’t actually been properly reviewed.

        2. The research team rely almost exclusively for their literature on radiation and biology on the work of two highly suspect and highly criticised radiation researchers: Anders Pape Moller and Timothy Mousseau – who also take part in the team. Moller and Mousseau’s work is considered to be outlying and poorly done; Moller is a convicted research fraud suspected of much wider infringements, and Mousseau was the main sponsor of (and now the US agent for) that notoriously dreadful book on Chernobyl you cited earlier that openly rejected the scientific method in order to reach hugely exaggerated death tolls – orders of magnitude higher than anything produced by mainstream scientists.

        That’s why it’s important for them that they don’t publish in the appropriate specialist journals – because radiation biologists would eat them for breakfast.

        3. The lead scientist for at least one of the studies – Joji Matsumoto Otaki – is someone who had never done a single piece of research into radiation before Fukushima, although he had done a lot of research into alternative medicine, and is himself a promoter of the pseudoscience known as homeopathy. Not really filling me with confidence there.

        4. To the details of the studies themselves:
        In this critique by a radiation biologist of some of their work, it is noted how they fail to control for north-south differences in climate and the impact on mortality; fail (probably because they are not familiar with the field, or with M&M simply ignoring it) to explain why their results contradict a large amount of research on the impact of radiation on insects; and display a highly problematic sloppiness in their data collection.

        So, the work’s been published, but it shows the hallmarks of propaganda as science in the same manner as climate change denial science:

        – it was published somewhere without proper specialists on the editorial staff
        – it ignores mainstream science and instead asserts fringe science as mainstream, making claims that fly in the face of large weights of evidence.
        – its authors have severely chequered histories, with unclear credentials for this kind of work
        – it has been panned by mainstream scientists working in the appropriate field.

        Unfortunately for you, I spent too long debating climate change deniers to know the tricks of the trade.

      • igrandunifier

        Yah, all our info n data are all wrong. only u hold all the right ‘research’ infos. The deadly facts of raiation always ignoring the NNNs propagandas.

      • Sam Gilman

        You quoted cited recent published science (well done you!) and I cited back criticism of it by many other scientists and scientific publications, indicating why it was problematic.

        This could have been the start of a discussion between two adults looking at the merits of various research. Instead you’ve gone back to throwing insults. How do you think you are coming across to anyone reading this exchange between us?

      • igrandunifier

        1945

        Alvin M. Weinberg, tells the Senate’s Special Committee on Atomic Energy that “Atomic power can cure as well as kill. It can fertilize and enrich a region as well as devastate it. It can widen man’s horizons as well as force him back into the cave.”

        1956

        “Former AEC official, John C. Bugher, declares at an American Public Health Association meeting that an atomic power program would present a much greater health threat than nuclear weapons, due to large quantities of radioactive chemicals emitted into the environment during power generation.”

        1957

        “Karl Z. Morgan in testimony before a Congressional subcommittee states that there is “no safe level of exposure” to radiation.”

        Karl Ziegler Morgan (September 27, 1907 – June 8, 1999), was an American physicist who was one of the founders of the field of radiation health physics. Late in life, after a long career in the Manhattan Project and at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, he became a critic of nuclear power and nuclear weapons production.

      • Sam Gilman

        I see you have resorted to the tactic of cut and paste dumping of large amounts of text. (This particular text is bounced around the odder of the anti-nuclear websites). No attempt to link it to the conversation (the effect of radiation on flora and fauna around Fukushima dai-ichi. In fact, no commentary at all. It’s not clear you even understand what you’ve posted, particularly the most up-to-date information from the HPS.

        I don’t know why people do this. It makes other readers roll their eyes and buy shares in tin foil manufacturers.

      • igrandunifier

        NNNs r faithed in your industry. Doesn’t matter how u slip n slide in trying to defend it, its a dying industry. U can only suppress info n spread your propagenda for so long. In the end live will prevail; good will defeat evil. Renewable energy will put nuke power back in the cave.

      • Sam Gilman

        So you have one book, sponsored by known junk scientists whose income stream depends pre, trashed by respected scientists, against the collaborative work of hundreds if not thousands of scientists from both inside and outside the former Soviet Union who have let their work be exposed to the critical appraisal of others?

        I judge my science by the process it was arrived at: good methods, good oversight, critically approved of by others in the field.

        Why don’t you do the same?

        Isn’t that how we distinguish good climate science from the trash put out by fossil-fuel sponsored science deniers?

        Why should we lower our standards here?

      • igrandunifier

        U have no standards of moral n compassion, only the greens u can pocket; like father like son.

      • Sam Gilman

        Let’s be clear what happened here. I made a plea to stick to good science – and your response is to call me immoral. For asking you to stick to good science.

        As with your refusal to identify who funds your preferred sources of information, I think there’s been another point proven against you through your own actions.

        Why do I care about this topic? Because fearmongering does serious damage to people’s lives. Japan is my home. Of course I care about people’s lives here, even if you personally don’t. My apologies for sullying you by citing a leading scientific journal, but here’s something worth reading:

        http://www.nature.com/news/fukushima-fallout-of-fear-1.12194

      • igrandunifier

        Nuke power is never a good science. Not only the industry is full of lies to the public, it hid all tthe deaths from all the nuke accidents. So u were never speaking of good scienceto begin with.

      • igrandunifier

        u don’t have good science on nuke power, but science of death n illnessnes. If u still haven’t taklen in the destruction of Chernobyl, TMI, Fukushima, n Hanford Washington, u need to take “your science’ bury them alive, with u.

      • Sam Gilman

        I respect people’s right to remain anonymous on the Internet. It is a way to preserve one’s right to free speech without intimidation or persecution. Several people here in Japan who use social media without anonymity have been threatened with violence for speaking out over fearmongering by other users of social media – threatened as it happens by people with beliefs like yours.

        However, using anonymity in order to post such threats of, or incitements to violence as you have just done here is not acceptable. It’s what cowards do. It is a strike against free speech. You may not know this, but it’s actually illegal – yes, even telling people to kill themselves.

        Would you like to withdraw and apologise?

      • igrandunifier

        If u need anonymity to preserve the rights to your free speech, u r either lying or afraid to face up to what u said. I have no respect for people of your conviction, a cog in the scheme of the nuke industry, professing lies, suppressing or give misleading health-effect information on every turn n incident: They embellished the on-going venting of health-devastating n lethal gas that every NPP must do regularly in order to operate n call it “NOBLE GAS”. The 500,000+ gallons of extreamely radioactive water (n increasing daily) that r stored at the Diaichii site that TEPCo wants to dump into the Pacific Ocean, they call it ‘tinted water”. N the most famous line of all “NO IMMEDIATE HEALTH EFFECT TO THE PUBLIC”. When the health effects n deaths do manifest, ithe statement becomes ” It’s not from the radiation.”
        or some thing like your partner, starviking would proclam “And of course, the science says the claims are rubbish” Aiming for people’s memory will fizzle out the disastrous incidents in time, n the public would no longer cared nor associate the spiked illnesses n deaths that appeared years later, like from TMI n Chernobyl, is the nuke industry’s science of self-preservation. N u want to talk science?
        If u can bury yourself n die,Sam, I’ll be more than happy to apologiZe to u, then.

      • igrandunifier

        Furthermore Sam, writing as a shill for the industry u have to be plastic, n must follow their rules n standard- i think they r something in the line of: Stay on the topic, always polite, refering n remind your antagonist “talk SCIENCE’-knowing 99.9% of the general public have littlle or no knowledge of the ‘nuke science’. U must not be derogatory or name-calling.

      • Sam Gilman

        I’ll take both your replies to my single comment together. They have been an eye-opener into your thinking style.

        It seems you are overwhelmed by the modern world. You complain that I am quoting science that 99.9% of the population don’t understand. I think you may be stuck at a lower level of science than that. You say:

        They embellished the on-going venting of health-devastating n lethal gas that every NPP must do regularly in order to operate n call it “NOBLE GAS”

        “Noble gases”, which you think is some kind of PR stunt phrase, is the extremely well-known term for a group of elements on the periodic table: Helium, neon, argon, xenon etc. This is something that in my country of origin children start to study when they are 11 years old. The pass rate (grade C or higher) for GCSE chemistry is 90%. The whole point of the noble gases is that they’re inert. They react with incredible difficulty with anything. That’s why helium gets put into scuba-diving mixes, because they’re safer to breathe at depth than nitrogen/oxygen mixes. That’s why various noble gases are put in light bulbs. 1% of the air you breathe is argon, a noble gas. I did this in what Americans would call junior high school.

        Much of what other science I put forward isn’t much more difficult than that. For example, the inverse square law (used to understand here the way radiation weakens over distances – and why one of the plaintiff’s sons simply couldn’t have fallen ill from the radiation source he claims, and why the letter writer’s own wild imaginings of people in distant Kyoto being affected getting radiation sickness from Fukushima is so crazy) is done in the UK at aged 14. Without wishing to pry, how old are you, iGrand?

        Essentially, what you seem so angry with is your own inability to understand science that these days is taught to school children. That’s not my fault, that’s not the DoD’s fault, it’s not even TEPCO’s fault. It’s no one’s fault, iGrand. There’s nothing wrong with finding science difficult. However, you simply need to find a better way of dealing with it than threatening other people with violent deaths, and trying to scare the victims of a terrible disaster into even more depression, domestic violence and bullying.

        In general, regarding your interactions on the Internet:

        writing as a shill for the industry u have to be plastic, n must follow their rules n standard- i think they r something in the line of: Stay on the topic, always polite, refering n remind your antagonist “talk SCIENCE’-knowing 99.9% of the general public have littlle or no knowledge of the ‘nuke science’. U must not be derogatory or name-calling.

        iGrand, being polite, staying on topic, and having content filled posts (rather than issuing explicit insults, threats of violence, defamation and ad hominem attacks) are the rules of any decent newspaper commenting policy. Shouldn’t you instead be accusing the Japan Times of being a nuclear shill? After all, they’re the ones who keep deleting your posts because they’re so abusive.

        Then there’s this:

        If u can bury yourself n die,Sam, I’ll be more than happy to apologiZe to u, then.

        and

        If u need anonymity to preserve the rights to your free speech, u r either lying or afraid to face up to what u said.

        You want me to give you my personal information so that what? You can physically carry out your wishes to see me dead? Is that the way you get people to agree with you? That’s terrorism, iGrand.

        I don’t know if you have children or grandchildren, but I’m not sure how proud they would be of you right now.

      • igrandunifier

        WHO is a World Health Organization that can not publish any nagative effect of nuke power w/o IAEA’s concent. N IAEA is chartered to promote nuclear power. It had refused to acknowledge any harm done in all the nuclear accidents. UNSCER were suposely over sees the proper decontamination after a nuclear accident. But the recently released UNSCER report on Fukushima not only came untimely 3 years after the accident, it was deemed unscientific n pro-nuke bias at the Foreign Press Conference of Japan recently.

      • Sam Gilman

        Madcap nonsense.

        http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/WHO-IAEA_conspiracy

        We appear to be going through the ABC of science denialism. The fossil fuel companies think that all of science is a conspiracy orchestrated by Al Gore, and the radical anti-nuclearists think all of science is a conspiracy orchestrated by the IAEA.

        The more advanced conspiracy stage for both groups is to blame the Jews. Is that where you’re going next, iGrand?

  • rickokona

    The USS Reagan is a nuclear powered aircraft carrier. As such it is replete with radiation detection devices. Why the Radiation Officer failed to act and why the Captain did not get the ship out of the prevailing winds is an enigma. The big ship should left the area post haste. It did move East but not out of the fallout. This tends to suggest over riding orders were in place. You may recall there was conversation about evacuation of US military bases in Tokyo. That too got quashed for the message it would send to the millions in Tokyo. Just shows that human engineering and human politics can and will foul any system. Some day the full truth will be known.

    • Anthony

      Sometimes it’s plain ‘ol human error; their commander ‘thought’ they were far enough away.
      Lat I heard the USS Reagan was still docked in San Diego and still contaminated. Anyone know differently?

      • igrandunifier

        Yes, it’s still docked in the S D’s navel yard, when I saw it from my cruise ship back in April. I purposely looked for it because I heard about it being dock there from the radiation contamination. I(we) didn’t see ANYONE on board moving abouts the whole day we were there. It’s supposely awaiting for congressional orders to see what to do with it. Here’s the catch 22. They can’t decontaminate USS Reagan entirely because the heavy radiation must have seep into the necks n cracks of all the electronic equipments n computers on board. Yet the government can’t junk its newest n most advence nuclear aircraft carrier by admitting to the severity of the radiation from Fukushima. That would just strengthen the Sailors’ law sue, n furthe crippling the nuclear power industry-world wide.

    • Sam Gilman

      I think your answer may be found in a different place: there was no high radiation dose. These health claims, even if true (and some appear surreal), cannot be related to radiation: for example the cancers were too far developed to have started after Fukushima, and many are of a sort simply not typical of radiation exposure. The original complaint was packed full of references to wild conspiracy theory sites (neo-Nazis who blamed the Jews for the disaster etc). The letter writer himself has been published before by the Japan Times; his grasp of science is astonishingly poor – almost as if he doesn’t care what’s true or not. (For example, he tried to change his students’ study abroad programme because he was convinced people in Kyoto, hundreds of miles from Fukushima and entirely unaffected, were getting acute radiation sickness.)

      • igrandunifier

        That’s how u NNN blanketly deny radiation effects, “cannot be related to radiation”: CBS San Francisco, Nov 21, 2014: Rare cancers, blindness, birth defects and now, two deaths. Hundreds of U.S. sailors… say they were exposed to dangerous levels of radiation… [Steve] Simmons… began feeling weak and sick with uncontrolled fevers… Soon he was in a wheelchair, unable to walk. He says military DOCTORS would never tell him what was wrong. “Every one of them wanted to discredit radiation as a possible cause,” Simmons said… “[There’s] evidence that the doses that were assumed to be on board the USS Reagan may have been under-reported,” said Dr. Robert Gould, a former Kaiser pathologist… “Given that there is more information that has come out, I think you would have to re-look at the entire situation,” said Dr. Gould. >> Watch the CBS broadcast here

      • Sam Gilman

        That would be Robert Gould, a specialist in Obstetrics and Gynaecology, not radiation and health, who is salaried by the stridently anti-nuclear campaign group Physicians for Social Responsibility…

        Try again. Try get someone who publishes in the right area and in the right forums, has the respect of their peers, and is independent of either the nuclear industry or the anti-nuclear industry. It’s not that difficult.

        The key is to look for their credentials first, regardless of their conclusions. You keep looking at their conclusions first. In your world, someone could be the best scientist ever with the esteem of 100% of his or her peers, as honest as the day is long and independent of all politics, but if you don’t like what they say, you’ll trash them. Alas, igrand, that’s not how good science works.

      • igrandunifier

        yah, our data is always wrong. only u know the right datas, SMF.

      • igrandunifier

        I’m sure you know how to find n retrieve the 3 meted cores in Diaichii. Or they are still in the reactor, as you may say?

      • Sam Gilman

        Putting aside niceties about the difference between data and interpretation of data, there is a simple reason why my position coincides with mainstream scientific opinion.

        It’s because it’s not a coincidence. I don’t go looking for “pro-nuclear” or “anti-nuclear” science. I look for good science. I’ve set out to you what that means several times now.

        Robert Gould is not wrong because he is quite literally a fully paid advocate for a radical anti-nuclear organisation with no qualifications in radiation biology speaking to a newspaper rather than publishing in oversighted scientific forums. On the other hand, because of these things, he cannot be taken as an objective authority. If he’s right, you should find it very easy to produce medical articles backing up the connections he makes between radiation, dose levels and the conditions he mentions.

        Instead of doing that, you called me an “SMF”, which google tells me is an abbreviation for crude and insulting language. Speaking of mothers, would yours be happy knowing that this is how you address strangers?

  • Richard Solomon

    The Japanese government has not filed a lawsuit against TEPCO, GE, or any other corporations responsible for the March 2011 disaster because it is more loyal to these corporations than it is to its own taxpayers let alone the US military personnel who risked their own health to help in the days and weeks following the ‘accident.’ The government’s use of this term, which implies it was all out of anyone’s responsibility, made clear from the start that it was more beholden to what some call ‘the nuclear village’ than its own people. As the old saying goes, ‘Money talks.’. And the nuclear village has lots of money to throw at government officials to keep them at bay.

    What I don’t understand is why the Japanese people themselves have not filed lawsuits against TEPCO, et al. Are they that passive?!?

    • Anthony

      They live in a conservative, repressed society; they sublimate the personal for the ‘good’ of the many, or of society, industry. It’s also difficult to prosecute a lawsuit if you’ve been displaced, lost family members, lost your employment, your life savings.

  • Starviking

    And of course, the science says the claims are rubbish:

    “The adjusted incidence rate of malignant neoplasms (which can be radiogenic) in the RONALD REAGAN population was nearly 50 percent lower than the adjusted incidence rate of malignant neoplasms found in the control population.”

    “Only two adverse health conditions (three cases) were identified among the RONALD REAGAN sailors that are radiogenic. These include one case of non-chronic lymphocytic leukemia (non-CLL) and two cases of thyroid cancer. These numbers of cases are not unusual or unexpected among a population of nearly 5,000 individuals.

    With respect to these three cases, it’s important to understand that all radiogenic diseases have what is called a “latency period” between the time of exposure and the appearance of health effects…the minimum latency period for radiation-induced leukemia is 2 years and 5 years for solid cancers (including thyroid cancer).

    The dates of diagnosis for these three cases strongly suggest that these disease processes were initiated well before OT and therefore, are not
    causally related to low-level radiation exposures during OT.”

    So, I think the minister would be fully within his rights to ignore your request.

    Ref: http://www.tricare.mil/tma/congressionalinformation/downloads/Radiation%20Exposure.pdf

    • igrandunifier

      Your tricare link is good as the words of TEPCo.; lies n denies!

    • igrandunifier

      Breitbart, by Kelli Serio, Jul 23, 2014: I was onboard the USS Ronald Reagan [and went] directly through a radiation cloud. The commanding officer warned us that our water and ventilation systems had been contaminated, posing a critical health risk to all of us onboard. We were advised to refrain from showering or DRINKING WATER… Sailors worked tirelessly… while being left vulnerable to dangerous levels of radiation… most of us onboard the ship were tested for radiation exposure and many came back positive, resulting in full-body scrubdowns… [W]e were issued gas masks… myself and other junior sailors were asked to don protective garments in an effort to decontaminate the ship… Proper medical care for the victims of radiation exposure [is needed, it’s a] dire situation for many… Many of us are enduring the unfortunate consequences [and] hoping for care from the VA that appears to never arrive… we are reassured of our good health, despite the presence of mysterious and unexplained symptoms… A lack of coverage by the mainstream media has left victims without a voice… We do not want to be forgotten.

    • igrandunifier

      “And of course, “the science” says the claims are rubbish:” Who’s sciece is that? R u speaking 4 all the science? U r but ustalizing the nuke industry’s standard tactic of denying-to the bones. Both u n Sam G’s “science facts’ r nothing but propaganda that the NUKE industry have likely pre-prepared for u to confused the uncertain readers. Your “scientific facts’ r not worthy of a ding-dong but full of rubbish in my book.

      • Starviking

        “ustalizing”?

  • Starviking

    Do you have a reference for this “multi-billion dollar” radiation detection network?

    We got our environmental radiation info from our local universities.

    • igrandunifier

      Show your E R n id the University.

      • Starviking

        E R?

  • Sam Gilman

    Yellowroz,

    Your answer is in the material you cite, which backs me up entirely. Many of these cancers are not associated with radiation exposure, and in any case, they’ve appeared way too soon.

    The American Cancer Society’s website explains how ionizing radiation, which refers to several types of particles and rays given off by radioactive materials, is one of the few scientifically proven carcinogens in human beings. Radiation exposure has been associated with most forms of leukaemia, as well as cancer of the thyroid, lung and breast. The time that may elapse between radiation exposure and cancer development can be anything between 10 and 40 years. (Emphasis added)

    It’s a good idea to read stuff before you cite it. It’s also good manners.

    In Chernobyl, the cancers that showed a rise were leukaemia in the most exposed responders, and thyroid cancer in children, which started to rise about four years after the accident. Their exposures were of course much, much higher than anything seen in Fukushima. Let me quote from UNSCEAR:

    Apart from the dramatic increase in thyroid cancer incidence among those exposed at a young age, and some indication of an increased leukaemia and cataract incidence among the workers, there is no clearly demonstrated increase in the incidence of solid cancers or leukaemia due to radiation in the exposed populations. Neither is there any proof of other non-malignant disorders that are related to ionizing radiation. However, there were widespread psychological reactions to the accident, which were due to fear of the radiation, not to the actual radiation doses.

    http://www.unscear.org/unscear/en/chernobyl.html

    As for the other symptoms, such as bleeding and vomiting, and limb shrinkage, any comment on that? For these conditions to be related to the accident, we’d have thousands dead from radiation, rather than none.

    At a certain point one has to choose between what one wants to be true (no matter how gruesomely enchanting), and what actually is true.

  • igrandunifier

    Notice these shill, Sam n Starvedviking here, r working as a team. The nuke industry have becoming more sophisticated, since six months ago when I last encounter one. Only shill stay on theses sites n challenge the anti-nukers over n over. A professional nuke-site worker won’t waste their ‘free-tme’ try to defened every issue brought up here, n try to dicredit your research or read data. They got better things to do with their time n they’re getting pay any ways. And a real nuke-expert would just lay out his/her clam, n be done with it. Only shill hangs around, to nag u….

    • Sam Gilman

      When your list of “shills” includes the World Health Organisation, the United Nations and the American Cancer Society, I think people are entitled to question the validity of your claims. It’s one hell of a conspiracy theory.

  • igrandunifier

    u r relying on the nuke industry’s propaganda n lies, n false datas, like the logs of the the USS naval ships travel. The log with only months shown but no years r indicated. N surely the navy wants u to know just exactly where their warship r located all the time!

    • igrandunifier

      and I won’t doubt shill like u would create jibish logs…

    • Starviking

      Sorry, that is idiotic. The Ronald Regan was at RIMPAC 2014, witnessed and photographed by foreign navies. It also shifted bases up the coast, which was reported by local media.

      • igrandunifier

        CBS San Francisco, Nov 21, 2014: Rare cancers, blindness, birth defects and now, two deaths. Hundreds of U.S. sailors… say they were exposed to dangerous levels of radiation… [Steve] Simmons… began feeling weak and sick with uncontrolled fevers… Soon he was in a wheelchair, unable to walk. He says military DOCTORS would never tell him what was wrong. “Every one of them wanted to discredit radiation as a possible cause,” Simmons said… “[There’s] evidence that the doses that were assumed to be on board the USS Reagan may have been under-reported,” said Dr. Robert Gould, a former Kaiser pathologist… “Given that there is more information that has come out, I think you would have to re-look at the entire situation,” said Dr. Gould. >> Watch the CBS broadcast here

  • igrandunifier

    That’s why there r hundreds of the sailors suing for their health, with 2 deaths so far…

  • igrandunifier

    Breitbart, by Kelli Serio, Jul 23, 2014: I was onboard the USS Ronald Reagan [and went] directly through a radiation cloud. The commanding officer warned us that our water and ventilation systems had been contaminated, posing a critical health risk to all of us onboard. We were advised to refrain from showering or DRINKING WATER… Sailors worked tirelessly… while being left vulnerable to dangerous levels of radiation… most of us onboard the ship were tested for radiation exposure and many came back positive, resulting in full-body scrubdowns… [W]e were issued gas masks… myself and other junior sailors were asked to don protective garments in an effort to decontaminate the ship… Proper medical care for the victims of radiation exposure [is needed, it’s a] dire situation for many… Many of us are enduring the unfortunate consequences [and] hoping for care from the VA that appears to never arrive… we are reassured of our good health, despite the presence of mysterious and unexplained symptoms… A lack of coverage by the mainstream media has left victims without a voice… We do not want to be forgotten.

  • Pearl

    People contaminated with radiation need to look into doing a detox with the mineral called zeolite that can safely remove the toxic radiation from their body.