In challenge to Modi, India Hindu group to convert Muslims, Christians


The head of India’s most powerful Hindu group vowed to press ahead with a campaign to convert Muslims and Christians to Hinduism, stoking a sensitive debate that has stalled parliament and threatened Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s economic reform agenda.

Mohan Bhagwat of the rightwing Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh, which is also the ideological wing of Modi’s party, said India is a “Hindu nation” where many Hindus have been forcibly converted to other religions.

“We will bring back those who have lost their way. They did not go on their own,” Bhagwat said in a speech late Saturday. “They were lured into leaving.”

Bhagwat’s comments came after Modi’s Bharatiya Janata Party said it does not support forced religious conversions and called for an anticonversion law.

India’s 1.2 billion people are predominantly Hindus but there are also about 160 million Muslims and a small proportion of Christians.

Modi is under fire for being slow to rein in hard-line affiliate groups that have been accused of promoting a Hindu-dominant agenda that includes luring Muslims and Christians to convert to Hinduism.

This month, a group of Muslims complained that they had been tricked into attending a conversion ceremony by Hindu groups, while a Hindu priest-turned-lawmaker of the ruling party planned a conversion ceremony on Christmas Day, although it was cancelled after Modi intervened.

Supporters define such events as a “homecoming,” saying that families signing up for the ceremonies were originally Hindus.

“We don’t want to convert anybody . . . but then Hindus should also not be converted,” Bhagwat said, adding that those who do not support religious conversions should bring in a law against it.

Bhagwat’s comments are likely to further irk opposition parties that have disrupted parliament over the conversion issue, demanding that the prime minister himself make a statement on the issue in the upper house.

Although Modi has privately warned lawmakers in his party to back off from controversial issues such as the conversion campaign, he has so far not made any official statement on the subject, leaving it to colleagues to fend off criticism.

  • well_wisher

    Indian subcontinent and large parts of Asia were Hindu – based on ancient Vedic culture. The Vedic rituals are still being practiced in Mecca: the pilgrims shave their heads, take a holy dip, wear white dhotis and walk around the central “idol.” There was peace and progress till religious bigots arrived. There has been more killing in the name of religion by Muslims and Christians: 80 million Hindus/Buddhists/Sikhs killed by Muslim invaders and the Hindu/Buddhist/Sikh women enslaved; hundreds of thousands of temples destroyed. Even Christian bigots have blood on their hands: millions of Hindus driven out of homes, coerced or killed during Francis Xavier’s Goa Inquisition; Christian gun-point conversions still taking place in India’s north-east! You cannot erase the ugly history! Why is inviting the misguided “back home” so offensive?

  • Udayavar

    It is ludicrous to permit conversion to Christianity, but not conversion from Christianity back to Hinduism.

  • Brian

    The Christian missionaries have been using insidious techniques to convert Indians since 500 years by forcing their way to tribal regions and acquire more followers. This same group is now well funded and working both openly, surreptitiously and at times through crypto Christians agents.
    Number of converts as declared by Missionaries:
    Terry Ivy one of the promoters of church planting movement in India has posted on his website that 118 churches have been planted since December 2011 with over 15,000 new converts!
    David Garrison in his How God is redeeming a Lost World book claims that four thousand churches planted in Northern India in just 10 years!
    An example is the Bhojpuri community mainly living in the states of Uttar Pradesh and Bihar in India. These are some of the most impoverished people of the country and therefore prime meat for the Christian talons. In 1996, the number of churches was 547 and rose to 1,200 in 1997. By 1998 there were 2,000 churches among the Bhojpuri of India and Nepal. In seven years more than 55,000 Bhojpuri converted.
    And the latest data available for 2000 shows a staggering 300, 000 converts!
    That is a huge number.
    Validity of the religion:
    Going back into history about 2000 years and by reading the chronology of this religion one sees that their claims and beliefs are simple proclamations made by the popes. Also known as papal bulls, these charters were simply arbitrary rules made with no validity whatsoever.
    For example in 1244 Impia gens was issued by Innocent IV which actually ordered the burning of the Jewish Holy book the Talmud.
    An even more ridiculous one was issued by Benedict XII who in the Benedictus Deus simply declared that the saved see Heaven (and thus, God) before Judgment Day. That’s it. He just said it was the way and that’s the only way.
    And these ideas and similar declarations found their way into the present day missionary guidebook in India.
    Imagine in this present day if some comedian on television declares, “I am the infallible king of the world; all of you are my slaves” or some such. Are people going to believe him? Can you really take someone like that seriously?
    Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy, in their book The Jesus Mysteries, explain how the myth and legend of Jesus could easily have arisen.
    – Historians have no evidence of a historic Jesus dating from the early first century, even though many contemporary writers documented the era in great detail.
    – Many other contemporary writers covered that era, yet there is not a single mention of any existence, deeds, or words of a man named Jesus.
    – Early Christians agreed that Christianity offered “nothing different” from paganism. Scholars attempting to establish the uniqueness of Christianity, met at every turn by pagan precedents to the story of Jesus.
    – The Gospels are not history; they are religious propaganda, contradictory, exaggerated, and mythical.
    – It is much more plausible to consider the Jesus character to be the result of myth-making, a human process that is indeed historically documented.
    In short this religion has no legitimacy whatsoever.
    Insidious Techniques:
    If you visit the website of the Joshua project you will find detailed information of every single pin code area of India. You might be mistaken in thinking that this is some government run health care center or a United Nations refugee camp! I don’t think even the Indian Government has such pedantic statistics available. But if you look closer you will see that their evil goal is to convert all Indians into Christianity.
    They are using purely Hindu Sanskrit terms like Bhakta’s and Satangi’s to describe converts. Only in India will you find sari clad Mary’s and Christian missionaries who wear sport a Vibuthi, wear orange robes and carry a cross. The world’s worst movies have better representations of comedians and funny cigars.
    Problems with Secularism:
    Organized Secularism and political parties who use the concept operate with a twisted hypothesis that religion is the world’s greatest problem and that the secularism they are pitching is the cure.
    Deep, deep inside, some preachers gradually sense that their lives are devoted to fantasy. They come to suspect that creeds, dogmas and scriptures about deities and devils, heavens and hells, miracles and messiahs, are fiction. But they don’t dare reveal such qualms, lest they wreck their careers, their status, and their pensions.
    India’s own Mother Teresa herself had lost the faith in the last 50 years of her life. In August, 2007 Time magazine published a definitive article on this topic based on letters she had written to her superiors. You may read it and judge for yourself.
    Christians are one of the two religions who are arrogant and insolent enough to claim that their faith is the only true faith and that all the other ones are part of a demonic conspiracy, which is a dastardly thing for anyone to think since this attitude has been responsible for very many massacres and wars.
    The further away from the Vedic Dharma one goes, the further away from the truth one finds oneself
    Christians and the associated instruments should immediately stop irritating this holy country and its beautiful Vedic culture.
    Once Christians stop fabricating stories about Hinduism, the Hindu’s will stop exposing their lies.

  • Ameer Tarin

    Nothing is “ludicrous” if you convert to other religion of your free will, it is fair & square. But using force, browbeating, harassment & trickery is brutal, fraudulent, sinister, deceitful and barbaric.

    • Krishna Rao

      Please tell that to the muslims. They forced converted millionsvof hindus. Now isis is doing it all over again.

      • Ameer Tarin

        Lies, Lies & more lies, aren’t you tired of scum of earth Chanakya theory.

      • Krishna Rao

        Yeah, just say lies. It is a fact, muslims forced converted most of the world. That is a fact. Some where in your blood lie there was probably a women who was raped by a muslim. You are product of rape. That is a fact.

      • Ameer Tarin

        Perhaps the gods that you worship teach you to justify your lies using swearwords. You think I can’t use them but I won’t because we Muslims are not allowed. You don’t seem to ponder at what Indian media talks about forced conversions & rapes and learn to speak truth for a change.

      • Krishna Rao

        Do you even know the meaning of what a swear word is? That is a serious question buddy. Because from what you wrote, it is very clear you have zero understand of what a swear word is. If I were you, I would get educated.

        With regards to rape, if you knew anything, many of those rapes in India are done by muslims, not just Hindus. The one that got famous was actually done by a muslim. And with regards to forced conversions, that is what muslims and Christians do in India and the rest of the world. Here is some homework for you:

        1. Look up the meaning of swear words.
        2. Get educated on the famous rape case that brought rape in India to the public attention. You will find out it was a muslim who did it.
        3. Get educated on the forced conversion topic. You will see mohammed himself forced people to convert to his religion. After he took over an area he murdered boys as young as 10 years old, if they had pubic hair, and forced all the women to marry people of his religion and he also raped them.

        You are dangerously under educated on many topics.

      • Ameer Tarin

        You might be qualified through facilitated examinations but definitely you are not educated. Moreover, don’t involve religion as I can talk so much about Hinduism that will drive you nuts & you might even commit suicide. I am well equipped with Hindu mythology & my favourite book that stays at the top shelf in my small library is a rear treasure “Riddles in Hinduism” by Baba Sahib Ambedkar, a popular leader of 33% Dalits (practicing Buddhists). So be careful & again I say learn to speak the truth.

      • Krishna Rao

        So now my comments are being blocked. LOL. Here is part of what I tried to post:

        I also have lots of sources of the mythology of islam and can go on and on. I can pull all kind of sources of the hypocrisy of islam and how you mistreat women and the slavery in islam. Trust me there is a ton out there. Like Ali Sena an ex-muslim and dr. bill warner who used to follow Sufi islam. But just look and see who started talking smack here, it was you. You wanted to talk about forced conversion, well start with the muslim nations first. Not one of them allow people follow whatever religion they wish to. They are not even secular. Let’s be honest here. NOT ONE MUSLIM NATION IS SECULAR. They all declare themselves muslim states.

        And for your information, I don’t follow what is considered mainstream Hinduism. I follow Yoga, which does NOT include mythology, idol worship, prophets, son of god/s, incarnations, godman/godwomen, or any other nonsense. In True Yoga there is just you and God. Nothing else. The closest to Yoga in Hinduism is Arya Samaj. Go look them up.

        Next you do need to look up the words ‘swear words’. You really do not know the meaning of it. Trying to force the meaning of swear word to make it fit your definition does not all of sudden change the definition.

        And commit suicide. LOL, good one, you are ignorant if you really think that. Unlike you I actually read through your material. I can say I read the quran and examined it, but I will bit you, you have NEVER READ THE VEDAS.

      • Krishna Rao

        Here is the rest I tried to post:

        I challenge you to read the Vedas to read a copy of the Vedas translated by a practicing Hindu.

        A great translation is by Dr. Tulsi Ram. You can even get it at agniveer {dot} com . And go to Agnikart Vedic Store. You can buy one there if you are serious.

        I have read quran and even looked at controversial verses by three different translators. But I will bet you didn’t even read one translations of the Vedas. Don’t go to some other person’s book, go read the actual Vedas. Don’t be a coward. Read the actual Vedas translated by an actual practicing Hindu and accepted by a Hindu body.

        Dr. Tulsi Ram is a practicing Hindu and his translation is backed by Agni Veer, a Hindu body.

        And Ameer, did you really just say “facilitated examination,” what do you think you are, a doctor. LOL. Come on man. And apposed to some standard examination you use. LOL. Dude, seriously stop trying to act like you are some sophisticated person, because when you try, you end out looking like a child trying to use big words in the incorrect context. Seriously man “facilitated examination”, lol that was a good one. I was on the ground laughing when you put that up.

  • Ameer Tarin

    Hindu religious zealots have newly learnt to masquerade as Christian using western Christian names and at times Muslim names to mislead general public. The trend propounding cheating amounting to fraud must be exposed.

    • Krishna Rao

      Lol, I think you have mistaken. That is what muslims and christains have been doing for 100s of years.

  • Vinu

    People were waylaid and lured with gimmicks to leave their civilizational bound of Hinduism to Abrahamic cults.

    When a civilization refinds its voice, its only natural for those who understand their mistake to come back to right path of Hinduism.

    Its the sign of civilization awakening from 1000 years of slavery and is not stoppable.

    As the only torch bearer of light and wisdom in a world full of darkness, Hindus & Buddhists have a historic responsibility to the masses still stuck in darkness of false Gods and cults.

  • Patriotic Indian

    Japan times, please stop hiring such anti-Hindu biased article writers.

  • Krishna Rao

    To my japanese friends, christains and muslins been trying to convert hindus since they cane to india, and even japan. So what is the big deal. If Hindus spread their message and get converts, no biggie. Don’t be hypocritical.

  • Ameer Tarin

    Stupid, Islam is not a myth or mythology; it is an historical reality. Go take a walk! Speak to a Dalit; he or she will tear you apart.

    • Krishna Rao

      LOL, Now that is funny. I’m talking about the mythological stories in your book. I am a dalit. I come from a dalit background dummy. LOL. And for your information caste system is a cultural problem not a religious problem. Go to India and you will see there are Dalit muslims, Dalit Christians, Dalit communists. And the upper caste muslims and upper caste christians and upper caste communists treat the lower caste muslims and lower caste christians and lower caste communists horrible. It is a cultural problem not a religious problem. DUMMY.

  • Kalelemulla ibn MohamedAli

    Faith is embedded in heart and mind. Flowers fire & words are oral and physical presumtion. In Hinduism no one can be converted to high caste BRAHMAN, they are converted as low cast SHUDRA. MANUSMRITI says:

    The tongue of Shudra who spoke evil about Brahman should be cut off (Apastamba Dharma Sutra II/10-26.
    Those who are with stinking conduct they will enter a stinking womb, either the womb of a dog or the womb of a swine or womb of Shudra (Chandogya Upanishad 5-10-7)
    Shudra must be prohibited from hearing, studying Vedas (Brahma Sutras
    More on Google Why Dr.Ambedkar burnt Manusmriti.::

    Due to Brahmans discrimination of Shudras, In 850Bc SHUDRA HINDUS converted to Jainism, in 500Bc to Budhism, 711-1700Ad. in Muslim rule to Muslims, from 1900 British rule till today SHUDRAS are converting to Christianity. Budhism was born in India but stamped out of India by Brahmans. Due to this discrimination Hinduism was confined to India only. Sri Lanka to Japan in entire East Asia there are more Buddhists than Hindus.