Documentary ‘Behind “The Cove”‘ aims to promote multisided understanding of Japanese whaling

by

Kyodo

A Japanese woman hopes a documentary she has made will help opponents of Japan’s hunting of whales and dolphins acquire a better understanding of the practice.

“Japanese have failed to argue against the criticism, mostly from the West, because silence is a virtue in Japan and also because of the language barrier,” said Keiko Yagi in a recent interview with Kyodo News in Tokyo’s Shinjuku district, where “Behind The Cove” has been screening since late January.

The 107-minute movie in English and Japanese is touted as a “counterdocumentary” to the Oscar-winning U.S. film “The Cove,” which threw the Wakayama Prefecture whaling town of Taiji into the international spotlight with bloody scenes of its annual dolphin hunt.

“Some people misunderstand and try to label me as being anti-American or a rightist,” Yagi said.

But the 48-year-old Tokyo native describes herself as “a big fan of America and Hollywood films.”

She said two American celebrities — talk show host Oprah Winfrey and actress Whoopi Goldberg — are her heroes and she has worked at the Japanese branch of Paramount Pictures.

“This film is purely about animal discrimination, as to why it is OK to kill cows and pigs but not OK to kill whales and dolphins. There is no right or left,” she said.

“Behind The Cove” was filmed, directed and edited by Yagi and is the result of her solo quest for facts about the Japanese hunting of cetaceans, propelled by a simple question: Who can judge which animal should be eaten or not?

The film, screened at the Montreal World Film Festival in September, was “incidentally produced,” she said, as she had initially planned to create “something short for release on YouTube.”

But as her quest brought “many unexpected discoveries,” it kept expanding to cover whaling history, religion, U.S. space programs and even World War II and the Vietnam War. By then she was hooked.

Finally Yagi decided to make it a feature-length film despite opposition from her husband, who feared such an attempt might make her a target of harassment by anti-whaling activists.

Yagi had never directed a film before and knew little about the whaling issue. She only had fond memories of eating deep-fried whale meat in school lunches when she was in elementary school.

But a decision in March 2014 by the International Court of Justice that Japan must abandon its “research whaling” in the Antarctic Ocean drew her attention to the issue.

The ruling handed down in a case lodged by Australia was “ridiculous,” she thought.

“Anti-whaling countries call Japanese research whaling a cover for commercial whaling on the grounds that we eat the whales caught in the research. They ignore the facts that the international whaling convention actually permits research whaling and requires any whales taken in the research to be processed as far as is practicable.”

Yagi had taken part in the production of a Japanese film as a freelancer and harbored an interest in filmmaking after quitting Paramount, where she worked in the back office, in March 2011.

Her research journey started with a compact home video camera. She used broken English to interview people including David Hance, a member of the marine conservation group Sea Shepherd Conservation Society; “The Cove” director Louie Psihoyos; and Richard O’Barry, a U.S. dolphin trainer who is now a dolphin rights activist and starred in the U.S. film.

She spent four months in Taiji, talking with former Antarctic whalers and chasing Sea Shepherd members monitoring the dolphin hunt. She also interviewed Japanese government officials and traveled to Washington to search archives.

Whether Yagi’s film is seen as a counter to “The Cove” must be left up to viewers.

Yagi said that Gen. Douglas MacArthur, the supreme commander in Japan during the U.S.-led Allied Occupation following World War II, permitted Japanese whaling boats to catch whales in the Southern Ocean in an effort to ease food shortages.

Various points of view came to light in the film.

O’Barry, who was recently denied entry to Japan and was deported, said during the interview, “I realize that a lot of the attention (of the anti-whaling community) is … not getting through in Japan, but it is in the rest of the world.”

Psihoyos argued that his film crew’s initial objective was to get both sides of the story, but no one in Taiji would talk with them on camera.

Kunio Yonezawa, a former chief delegate to the International Whaling Commission, opined, “They kill many baby sheep and cows, don’t they?”

Although Yagi sees “The Cove” as being one-sided and “intentionally portraying Taiji, a peaceful tiny fishing town in reality, as a scary place,” she also criticizes moves seen in Japan, notably by rightist groups employing loudspeakers to shout slogans, to oppose its screening.

“I am against them both — being silent (to the criticism of the whaling) or using loudspeakers to suppress freedom of expression,” she said, adding that is why she made her film. “I wanted to use footage in order to refute footage.”

Although her film’s website became temporarily inaccessible earlier this year, with the Anonymous hacker group claiming to have carried out cyberattacks, Yagi said she will not yield to such harassment.

“Behind The Cove” will be shown in Shinjuku until March 11. Screening is to start in Osaka, Hokkaido’s Tomakomai and Okinawa between mid-March and early April.

Yagi also hopes to bring the film overseas, as she has received screening requests from Australia, France and the United States.

Even the dolphin activist O’Barry has expressed a willingness to see her film, according to Yagi. The 76-year-old American texted her, saying he tried to see her film in Tokyo but couldn’t because of deportation. He wonders how he can view it, she said.

  • alain

    She is so naive…..

    • Cdmazal

      she is?

  • Cdmazal

    Finally. Simple yet powerful message to fundamentalists all over the world. Japan fights back. If there are 515.000 minke whales in the Antartica stock, 333 is perfectly acceptable by common sense people. I come from a beef producing country and we eat the entire cow, baby sheep, baby lamb ( so does NZ)and Australia eat wallaby, culls Koalas (2014 in Victoria where they killed 686 individuals) piglets, horses in Switzerland, zebras and gazelles in Africa, camel in Arab countries. There seems to be a racist undertone when all these radical NGOs target Japan and disrespect its cultural diversity and relentlessly attacks selectively its whaling program and ignore what the entire world consumes.

    • Drew

      A cow is not an endangered species.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Nor is the Minke whale.

      • blondein_tokyo

        A better arguement is the method of killing. Cows are killed by first elecrically shocking them so they are impervious to pain, and then a bullet goes directly into their brain. This is the legally prescribed way to slaughter cows – anything else would be illegal and due to laws against animal cruelty, and the slaughterhouse could be charged and even shut down.
        If the farmer chased the cow around the field in his truck until it was too exhaused to run aymore, and then stabbed it with knives to disable it, then threw a small grenade at it so that it was blown apart to finally kill it, then that would be the equivalent of what is done to whales.
        If this were done to any other animal, I think most people would howl and rage and demand it end – so why do we allow whales to be killed in such a cruel fashion? If it were done to cows, pigs, chickens, or any other animal, it would be against the law. That is my question.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        If you believe that cows feel no pain or are not improperly handled prior to the point when they die, you’re out of it. But hey, the beef industry is glad you believe that they’re treating cows properly. Continue to focus on whales and dolphins, as everything else is properly cared for before it is killed to be used as food. But I’m sure you’ve been in a slaughterhouse at any point, right? Regularly? A chicken plantation? Please. The cows and chickens have to suffer their whole lives before they are finally put out of their misery. But where’s the outrage? Save it for the whales and dolphins. They get to suffer for a day, not their entire existence.

      • Drew

        All animals feel pain and all animals should be treated with respect. All forms of killing animals cause some pain. The goal is to improve the treatment of all animals including whales and dolphins.

      • Drew

        All animals feel pain and all animals should be treated with respect. All forms of killing animals cause some pain. The goal is to improve the treatment of all animals including whales and dolphins.

      • Drew

        All animals feel pain and all animals should be treated with respect. All forms of killing animals cause some pain. The goal is to improve the treatment of all animals including whales and dolphins.

      • Drew

        All animals feel pain and all animals should be treated with respect. All forms of killing animals cause some pain. The goal is to improve the treatment of all animals including whales and dolphins.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Then work out an easier way for fishermen to effectively catch and kill dolphins and whales without causing them pain. And while you’re at it, get on figuring out how to stop chicken farmers and cow herders from cutting corners to cause those creatures pain through their entire lives.

      • Drew

        All animals feel pain and all animals should be treated with respect. All forms of killing animals cause some pain. The goal is to improve the treatment of all animals including whales and dolphins.

      • Drew

        All animals feel pain and all animals should be treated with respect. All forms of killing animals cause some pain. The goal is to improve the treatment of all animals including whales and dolphins.

      • Drew

        All animals feel pain and all animals should be treated with respect. All forms of killing animals cause some pain. The goal is to improve the treatment of all animals including whales and dolphins.

      • Drew

        All animals feel pain and all animals should be treated with respect. All forms of killing animals cause some pain. The goal is to improve the treatment of all animals including whales and dolphins.

      • Drew

        All animals feel pain and all animals should be treated with respect. All forms of killing animals cause some pain. The goal is to improve the treatment of all animals including whales and dolphins.

      • Drew

        All animals feel pain and all animals should be treated with respect. All forms of killing animals cause some pain. The goal is to improve the treatment of all animals including whales and dolphins.

      • Drew

        All animals feel pain and all animals should be treated with respect. All forms of killing animals cause some pain. The goal is to improve the treatment of all animals including whales and dolphins.

      • Drew

        All animals feel pain and all animals should be treated with respect. All forms of killing animals cause some pain. The goal is to improve the treatment of all animals including whales and dolphins.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        It is not illegal for whales because of the whole “it’s not easy to catch them and kill them” thing. Cows in slaughterhouses are generally going to stay where they are. If they manufactured something that did the same for whales, I’m sure it would be done. And could assist in breeding, thus making sustainability not a problem, too.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        It is not illegal for whales because of the whole “it’s not easy to catch them and kill them” thing. Cows in slaughterhouses are generally going to stay where they are. If they manufactured something that did the same for whales, I’m sure it would be done. And could assist in breeding, thus making sustainability not a problem, too.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        It is not illegal for whales because of the whole “it’s not easy to catch them and kill them” thing. Cows in slaughterhouses are generally going to stay where they are. If they manufactured something that did the same for whales, I’m sure it would be done. And could assist in breeding, thus making sustainability not a problem, too.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        It is not illegal for whales because of the whole “it’s not easy to catch them and kill them” thing. Cows in slaughterhouses are generally going to stay where they are. If they manufactured something that did the same for whales, I’m sure it would be done. And could assist in breeding, thus making sustainability not a problem, too.

      • blondein_tokyo

        My argument there is, then we should not kill whales until such a method can be manufactured. :)
        But I would also point out that killing whales is not justifiable, considering that the meat largely goes uneaten and government subsidies are needed to keep the industry alive.
        If beef were piling up at the warehouses, and government subsidies were needed to keep the cattle farms profitable, then woudn’t you agree that most people would protest and say “let the industry die out”? That is what capitailsim is about, no?
        You know, I’m not an extremist. I understand that animal aren’t equal to people and that meat can be eaten ethically, and in some places, it is a necessity to kill animals for food.
        What I protest is the high level of consumption that necessitates factory farming, which is objectively horribly, horribly cruel, and also rather unecessary since meat does not have to be a staple of the human diet. It can be a PART of our diet; but it has come to the point where too many people eat meat three, four, times a day. That is what I think can arguably be called unethical consumption.
        Small farming operations, like my family farm (my brother now farms) can raise animals without cruelty, and slaughter (fairly) humanely. If people all cut down on their meat consumption, we could easily sustain that with small, local, farm operations.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Then we should also not kill cows or chickens until we can guarantee they will be raised and killed in a humane way. Not going to happen, but one is the same as the other. The pain is just spread out for chickens and cows as opposed to the one big helping for dolphins and whales.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        It is not illegal for whales because of the whole “it’s not easy to catch them and kill them” thing. Cows in slaughterhouses are generally going to stay where they are. If they manufactured something that did the same for whales, I’m sure it would be done. And could assist in breeding, thus making sustainability not a problem, too.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        It is not illegal for whales because of the whole “it’s not easy to catch them and kill them” thing. Cows in slaughterhouses are generally going to stay where they are. If they manufactured something that did the same for whales, I’m sure it would be done. And could assist in breeding, thus making sustainability not a problem, too.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        It is not illegal for whales because of the whole “it’s not easy to catch them and kill them” thing. Cows in slaughterhouses are generally going to stay where they are. If they manufactured something that did the same for whales, I’m sure it would be done. And could assist in breeding, thus making sustainability not a problem, too.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • blondein_tokyo

        I am just pointing out what the law says, in order to keep things totally objective. If it is illegal to kill cows in the way I described, due to the perception of animal cruelty, then why is it legal to kill whales and dolphins in the exact same way?
        Just FYI, I actually know quite well how animals are slaughtered, because my father was a farmer, so yes…I actually have regularly visited slaughterhouses and am quite well-informed on how it’s done. I aslo watched my dad kill chickens by cutting off their heads…when I was five, I thought it was hilarous when their bodies flopped around. Now I find it horrifying.
        I think you and I are in agreement here, actually, in that animals who are eaten for food suffer their entire lives. I find that to be morally reprehensible, which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian. :)

      • Drew

        A Minke whale is a wild animal and is far more endangered than a domesticated animal.

      • Drew

        A Minke whale is a wild animal and is far more endangered than a domesticated animal.

      • Drew

        A Minke whale is a wild animal and is far more endangered than a domesticated animal.

      • Drew

        A Minke whale is a wild animal and is far more endangered than a domesticated animal.

      • Drew

        A Minke whale is a wild animal and is far more endangered than a domesticated animal.

      • Drew

        A Minke whale is a wild animal and is far more endangered than a domesticated animal.

      • Drew

        A Minke whale is a wild animal and is far more endangered than a domesticated animal.

      • Drew

        A Minke whale is a wild animal and is far more endangered than a domesticated animal.

      • Drew

        A Minke whale is a wild animal and is far more endangered than a domesticated animal.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • Carlos Mazal

        Minkes are abundant. Low estimate of 515.000 in Antarctica alone. Japan will hunt 333 this year. End of discussion. Each female breeds one calf per year so figure you will have thousands more every year. There are just too many ignorant, emotional and racist comments on this forum. Let people eat what they please. Pigs are also ” intelligent”…they can even be domesticated. So if you don’t like it is great but do not try to impose your values on anyone else. Get a life and stop ganging up and Japan bashing.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Criticism is not the same as “bashing”.

        You’ve also attempted to refute two arguments that I never even made. You seem to be one of those people who just like to butt heads, and I have zero interest in that. All I can say to that is, find a better hobby. Grow up.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Criticism is not the same as “bashing”.

        You’ve also attempted to refute two arguments that I never even made. You seem to be one of those people who just like to butt heads, and I have zero interest in that. All I can say to that is, find a better hobby. Grow up.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • blondein_tokyo

        Drew, you aren’t being logical. I hate to point this out, but the word “endangered” has a specific meaning. Minke whales are not an endangered species by the definion of the word “endangered.” You can’t use words wrongly when they suit your purpose. All you are doing is making our side look inconsistent.

        Minke can be hunted sustainably, just as other types of wild animals, such as fish, pheasants, or deer, can be. The reason we should not hunt them is a seperate issue from the fact that we CAN.

        The point is, that we CAN, but we SHOULDN’T.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Might want to talk to COSEWIC and IUCN, then. They both see the Minke as not being endangered.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Might want to talk to COSEWIC and IUCN, then. They both see the Minke as not being endangered.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Might want to talk to COSEWIC and IUCN, then. They both see the Minke as not being endangered.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Might want to talk to COSEWIC and IUCN, then. They both see the Minke as not being endangered.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Might want to talk to COSEWIC and IUCN, then. They both see the Minke as not being endangered.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Might want to talk to COSEWIC and IUCN, then. They both see the Minke as not being endangered.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Might want to talk to COSEWIC and IUCN, then. They both see the Minke as not being endangered.

      • Carlos Mazal

        More endangered than what? Think.

      • Drew

        A Minke whale is a wild animal and is far more endangered than a domesticated animal.

      • Drew

        A Minke whale is a wild animal and is far more endangered than a domesticated animal.

      • Drew

        A Minke whale is a wild animal and is far more endangered than a domesticated animal.

    • blondein_tokyo

      How is the arguement racist, when the same one is applied to all countries that hunt whales? This includes Iceland and Nowary. Are we racist against them, too? ;)

      • Carlos Mazal

        Sorry but I have been to the IWC too many times and it is 99.9% against Japan. There is a racist undertone. Norway was once asked about whale watching as an alternative and the Commissioner said. ” Sure we have whale watching, we watch it and eat it, there is no contradiction”.

  • Gordon

    Yagi seems to think that the question “Is it kawaii?” is on an ethicist or environmentalist’s checklist.

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  • Drew

    Whales and dolphins are very sensitive species with strong bonding emotions. They should not be treated in such a cruel manner.. This has nothing to do with culture. It is protecting the long term sustainability of the oceans.

    • Clickonthewhatnow

      Either it is about protecting the long term sustainability of the oceans, or it is about the emotions of whales and dolphins. Which is it?

      • blondein_tokyo

        Why can’t it be about both?

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Cows don’t have emotions? Chickens don’t have emotions? Any other animal we use for food, etc? So we should just work on making sure that whales and dolphin population can be maintained, then the slaughter is fine.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I didn’t say they didn’t have emotions, though…I said they DO, and that it is about BOTH.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Fantastic. So we just need to work on making sure the whale and dolphin populations are sustainable, and then no problems, because we don’t give a care about the emotions of cows or other animals we use for food.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Then I have no beef (ha ha) with you personally, it was more the previous poster who talks about whales and dolphins like they should be exempt because of their “heightened emotions”. Either you’re against all animals being slaughtered for food, or you’re against none of them. Sorry about that, I get on a train like I’m still dealing with the original poster. Have a good one.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Then I have no beef (ha ha) with you personally, it was more the previous poster who talks about whales and dolphins like they should be exempt because of their “heightened emotions”. Either you’re against all animals being slaughtered for food, or you’re against none of them. Sorry about that, I get on a train like I’m still dealing with the original poster. Have a good one.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Then I have no beef (ha ha) with you personally, it was more the previous poster who talks about whales and dolphins like they should be exempt because of their “heightened emotions”. Either you’re against all animals being slaughtered for food, or you’re against none of them. Sorry about that, I get on a train like I’m still dealing with the original poster. Have a good one.

      • Drew

        It is about both. Both are important. We cannot survive as humans without a bountiful ocean.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        That last statement only reflects sustainability. That can be fixed if they somehow make breeding farms for dolphins and whales, get them going the same way we do cows and chickens.

  • Drew

    We have long ignored the emotions of these species. They deserve better treatment. The killing shown in the Cove is vicious and immensely cruel. Japan is harvesting the oceans in unsustainable ways. It is also driving blue fin tuna to extinction. It would be better for someone to focus Japan on its long term unsustainable practices in the oceans rather than justifying its whaling practices that are out of step with the rest of the world.

    • Clickonthewhatnow

      What about the emotions of chickens and cows? Do you seriously think they are treated well?

      • Drew

        I agree that that these animals do suffer. However, this movie is not about killing chickens and cows so this is off topic.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        Not at all. Dolphins and whales are hardly special, every animal used for food suffers because of us, so dwelling on two like they are special for some reason is a bit illogical.

      • SuzanneSmith

        They are special…..very special. I suggest you learn about them before you claim and exclusive right to logic

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        I suggest you explain why you think they are special or go away.

    • blondein_tokyo

      Yes – what about the emotions of other animals? Cows, chickens, pigs, and other animals, including dogs, are also raised in inhumane conditions and then cruelly slaughtered without a thought paid to the worth of their lives.

      It’s hypocritical to single out whales and dolphins, while ignoring other animals. If you want your position to be consistent, you need to protest against animal cruelty in all forms, including the consumption of beef, pork, and chicken – no matter how much you enjoy your KFC and bacon.

      This is why I am a vegetarian – killing animals for food is cruel, unnecessary, and in my personal view, morally wrong.

      However, I do understand that my morality is not something I can apply arbitraily to others, so my intention here is more to point out the inconsistency of your arguement than chide you for not being vegetarian. :) But yeah, I do think the world would be better if not so many people ate meat without even thinking about where it comes from and how it gets to your plate.

      • Drew

        I disagree, the cruelty in the cove was extreme and I do not promote cruelty toward any animal. Whales and dolphins do have high levels of emotions and deserve better treatment. The idea that the mistreatment of one group justifies the mistreatment of another is a false justification. While Americans could clearly improve the treatment of farm animals the Japanese need to improve the treatment of whales and dolphins. Both cultures have room for improvement.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I don’t think we disagree. :)
        I’m actually tryting to help you out by pointing out where your argument is inconsistent, so that you can be aware of the flaws in your logic, and be enabled to WIN these debates. :)
        See, if you want to say that we shouldn’t kill whales because they are emotional beings, you need to be consistent and say the same of ALL animals. That is, if you are against killing whales and dolphins, you should also be against killing cows, chickens, and pigs.
        Are you a vegetarian? If not, you ARE being hypicritical. You might want to consider that the next time you go into a debate, because the pro-whalers are just going to utterly dismiss you if you are inconsistent. That is their only trump card, actually, and they LOVE to play it.

      • Drew

        I think there is a difference from killing domesticated animals bred for harvest even when done so in a inhumane manner and killing wild animals that live in social pods. While I believe that being vegetarian is the ideal long term solution I am not sure we have reached that point yet. I am more strongly opposed to going out into the wild and killing than I am to killing in a breeding situation. I strive to eat a plant based diet, but I am not a strict vegetarian. Whales and dolphins have strong social structures that are severely harmed through the mass killings we see in the movie the Cove. I believe we need to reduce the killing of whales and dolphins who you point out are not healthy to eat anyway.

      • Carlos Mazal

        The “not healthy” argument is another false argument from fundamentalist NGOs, vegans and veggies. I have eaten camel, whale, wallaby (in AU, where else?), zebra, impala, baby lamb ( in NZ, you guessed) piglet ( 45 days old), and even jelly fish in China. If you don’t agree or like it, well, it is perfectly fine. My blood tests are impecable. You just don’ t have right to judge me or my cultural diversity. Much less, impose your views or values. Capisce?

      • Carlos Mazal

        The “not healthy” argument is another false argument from fundamentalist NGOs, vegans and veggies. I have eaten camel, whale, wallaby (in AU, where else?), zebra, impala, baby lamb ( in NZ, you guessed) piglet ( 45 days old), and even jelly fish in China. If you don’t agree or like it, well, it is perfectly fine. My blood tests are impecable. You just don’ t have right to judge me or my cultural diversity. Much less, impose your views or values. Capisce?

      • Carlos Mazal

        The “not healthy” argument is another false argument from fundamentalist NGOs, vegans and veggies. I have eaten camel, whale, wallaby (in AU, where else?), zebra, impala, baby lamb ( in NZ, you guessed) piglet ( 45 days old), and even jelly fish in China. If you don’t agree or like it, well, it is perfectly fine. My blood tests are impecable. You just don’ t have right to judge me or my cultural diversity. Much less, impose your views or values. Capisce?

      • Carlos Mazal

        The “not healthy” argument is another false argument from fundamentalist NGOs, vegans and veggies. I have eaten camel, whale, wallaby (in AU, where else?), zebra, impala, baby lamb ( in NZ, you guessed) piglet ( 45 days old), and even jelly fish in China. If you don’t agree or like it, well, it is perfectly fine. My blood tests are impecable. You just don’ t have right to judge me or my cultural diversity. Much less, impose your views or values. Capisce?

      • blondein_tokyo

        I don’t think we disagree. :)
        I’m actually tryting to help you out by pointing out where your argument is inconsistent, so that you can be aware of the flaws in your logic, and be enabled to WIN these debates. :)
        See, if you want to say that we shouldn’t kill whales because they are emotional beings, you need to be consistent and say the same of ALL animals. That is, if you are against killing whales and dolphins, you should also be against killing cows, chickens, and pigs.
        Are you a vegetarian? If not, you ARE being hypicritical. You might want to consider that the next time you go into a debate, because the pro-whalers are just going to utterly dismiss you if you are inconsistent. That is their only trump card, actually, and they LOVE to play it.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I don’t think we disagree. :)
        I’m actually tryting to help you out by pointing out where your argument is inconsistent, so that you can be aware of the flaws in your logic, and be enabled to WIN these debates. :)
        See, if you want to say that we shouldn’t kill whales because they are emotional beings, you need to be consistent and say the same of ALL animals. That is, if you are against killing whales and dolphins, you should also be against killing cows, chickens, and pigs.
        Are you a vegetarian? If not, you ARE being hypicritical. You might want to consider that the next time you go into a debate, because the pro-whalers are just going to utterly dismiss you if you are inconsistent. That is their only trump card, actually, and they LOVE to play it.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I don’t think we disagree. :)
        I’m actually tryting to help you out by pointing out where your argument is inconsistent, so that you can be aware of the flaws in your logic, and be enabled to WIN these debates. :)
        See, if you want to say that we shouldn’t kill whales because they are emotional beings, you need to be consistent and say the same of ALL animals. That is, if you are against killing whales and dolphins, you should also be against killing cows, chickens, and pigs.
        Are you a vegetarian? If not, you ARE being hypicritical. You might want to consider that the next time you go into a debate, because the pro-whalers are just going to utterly dismiss you if you are inconsistent. That is their only trump card, actually, and they LOVE to play it.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I don’t think we disagree. :)
        I’m actually tryting to help you out by pointing out where your argument is inconsistent, so that you can be aware of the flaws in your logic, and be enabled to WIN these debates. :)
        See, if you want to say that we shouldn’t kill whales because they are emotional beings, you need to be consistent and say the same of ALL animals. That is, if you are against killing whales and dolphins, you should also be against killing cows, chickens, and pigs.
        Are you a vegetarian? If not, you ARE being hypicritical. You might want to consider that the next time you go into a debate, because the pro-whalers are just going to utterly dismiss you if you are inconsistent. That is their only trump card, actually, and they LOVE to play it.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I don’t think we disagree. :)
        I’m actually tryting to help you out by pointing out where your argument is inconsistent, so that you can be aware of the flaws in your logic, and be enabled to WIN these debates. :)
        See, if you want to say that we shouldn’t kill whales because they are emotional beings, you need to be consistent and say the same of ALL animals. That is, if you are against killing whales and dolphins, you should also be against killing cows, chickens, and pigs.
        Are you a vegetarian? If not, you ARE being hypicritical. You might want to consider that the next time you go into a debate, because the pro-whalers are just going to utterly dismiss you if you are inconsistent. That is their only trump card, actually, and they LOVE to play it.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I don’t think we disagree. :)
        I’m actually tryting to help you out by pointing out where your argument is inconsistent, so that you can be aware of the flaws in your logic, and be enabled to WIN these debates. :)
        See, if you want to say that we shouldn’t kill whales because they are emotional beings, you need to be consistent and say the same of ALL animals. That is, if you are against killing whales and dolphins, you should also be against killing cows, chickens, and pigs.
        Are you a vegetarian? If not, you ARE being hypicritical. You might want to consider that the next time you go into a debate, because the pro-whalers are just going to utterly dismiss you if you are inconsistent. That is their only trump card, actually, and they LOVE to play it.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I don’t think we disagree. :)
        I’m actually tryting to help you out by pointing out where your argument is inconsistent, so that you can be aware of the flaws in your logic, and be enabled to WIN these debates. :)
        See, if you want to say that we shouldn’t kill whales because they are emotional beings, you need to be consistent and say the same of ALL animals. That is, if you are against killing whales and dolphins, you should also be against killing cows, chickens, and pigs.
        Are you a vegetarian? If not, you ARE being hypicritical. You might want to consider that the next time you go into a debate, because the pro-whalers are just going to utterly dismiss you if you are inconsistent. That is their only trump card, actually, and they LOVE to play it.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I don’t think we disagree. :)
        I’m actually tryting to help you out by pointing out where your argument is inconsistent, so that you can be aware of the flaws in your logic, and be enabled to WIN these debates. :)
        See, if you want to say that we shouldn’t kill whales because they are emotional beings, you need to be consistent and say the same of ALL animals. That is, if you are against killing whales and dolphins, you should also be against killing cows, chickens, and pigs.
        Are you a vegetarian? If not, you ARE being hypicritical. You might want to consider that the next time you go into a debate, because the pro-whalers are just going to utterly dismiss you if you are inconsistent. That is their only trump card, actually, and they LOVE to play it.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I don’t think we disagree. :)
        I’m actually tryting to help you out by pointing out where your argument is inconsistent, so that you can be aware of the flaws in your logic, and be enabled to WIN these debates. :)
        See, if you want to say that we shouldn’t kill whales because they are emotional beings, you need to be consistent and say the same of ALL animals. That is, if you are against killing whales and dolphins, you should also be against killing cows, chickens, and pigs.
        Are you a vegetarian? If not, you ARE being hypicritical. You might want to consider that the next time you go into a debate, because the pro-whalers are just going to utterly dismiss you if you are inconsistent. That is their only trump card, actually, and they LOVE to play it.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I don’t think we disagree. :)
        I’m actually tryting to help you out by pointing out where your argument is inconsistent, so that you can be aware of the flaws in your logic, and be enabled to WIN these debates. :)
        See, if you want to say that we shouldn’t kill whales because they are emotional beings, you need to be consistent and say the same of ALL animals. That is, if you are against killing whales and dolphins, you should also be against killing cows, chickens, and pigs.
        Are you a vegetarian? If not, you ARE being hypicritical. You might want to consider that the next time you go into a debate, because the pro-whalers are just going to utterly dismiss you if you are inconsistent. That is their only trump card, actually, and they LOVE to play it.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I don’t think we disagree. :)
        I’m actually tryting to help you out by pointing out where your argument is inconsistent, so that you can be aware of the flaws in your logic, and be enabled to WIN these debates. :)
        See, if you want to say that we shouldn’t kill whales because they are emotional beings, you need to be consistent and say the same of ALL animals. That is, if you are against killing whales and dolphins, you should also be against killing cows, chickens, and pigs.
        Are you a vegetarian? If not, you ARE being hypicritical. You might want to consider that the next time you go into a debate, because the pro-whalers are just going to utterly dismiss you if you are inconsistent. That is their only trump card, actually, and they LOVE to play it.

      • Drew

        I disagree, the cruelty in the cove was extreme and I do not promote cruelty toward any animal. Whales and dolphins do have high levels of emotions and deserve better treatment. The idea that the mistreatment of one group justifies the mistreatment of another is a false justification. While Americans could clearly improve the treatment of farm animals the Japanese need to improve the treatment of whales and dolphins. Both cultures have room for improvement.

      • Drew

        I disagree, the cruelty in the cove was extreme and I do not promote cruelty toward any animal. Whales and dolphins do have high levels of emotions and deserve better treatment. The idea that the mistreatment of one group justifies the mistreatment of another is a false justification. While Americans could clearly improve the treatment of farm animals the Japanese need to improve the treatment of whales and dolphins. Both cultures have room for improvement.

      • Drew

        I disagree, the cruelty in the cove was extreme and I do not promote cruelty toward any animal. Whales and dolphins do have high levels of emotions and deserve better treatment. The idea that the mistreatment of one group justifies the mistreatment of another is a false justification. While Americans could clearly improve the treatment of farm animals the Japanese need to improve the treatment of whales and dolphins. Both cultures have room for improvement.

      • Drew

        I disagree, the cruelty in the cove was extreme and I do not promote cruelty toward any animal. Whales and dolphins do have high levels of emotions and deserve better treatment. The idea that the mistreatment of one group justifies the mistreatment of another is a false justification. While Americans could clearly improve the treatment of farm animals the Japanese need to improve the treatment of whales and dolphins. Both cultures have room for improvement.

      • Drew

        I disagree, the cruelty in the cove was extreme and I do not promote cruelty toward any animal. Whales and dolphins do have high levels of emotions and deserve better treatment. The idea that the mistreatment of one group justifies the mistreatment of another is a false justification. While Americans could clearly improve the treatment of farm animals the Japanese need to improve the treatment of whales and dolphins. Both cultures have room for improvement.

      • Drew

        I disagree, the cruelty in the cove was extreme and I do not promote cruelty toward any animal. Whales and dolphins do have high levels of emotions and deserve better treatment. The idea that the mistreatment of one group justifies the mistreatment of another is a false justification. While Americans could clearly improve the treatment of farm animals the Japanese need to improve the treatment of whales and dolphins. Both cultures have room for improvement.

      • Drew

        I disagree, the cruelty in the cove was extreme and I do not promote cruelty toward any animal. Whales and dolphins do have high levels of emotions and deserve better treatment. The idea that the mistreatment of one group justifies the mistreatment of another is a false justification. While Americans could clearly improve the treatment of farm animals the Japanese need to improve the treatment of whales and dolphins. Both cultures have room for improvement.

      • Drew

        I disagree, the cruelty in the cove was extreme and I do not promote cruelty toward any animal. Whales and dolphins do have high levels of emotions and deserve better treatment. The idea that the mistreatment of one group justifies the mistreatment of another is a false justification. While Americans could clearly improve the treatment of farm animals the Japanese need to improve the treatment of whales and dolphins. Both cultures have room for improvement.

      • Drew

        I disagree, the cruelty in the cove was extreme and I do not promote cruelty toward any animal. Whales and dolphins do have high levels of emotions and deserve better treatment. The idea that the mistreatment of one group justifies the mistreatment of another is a false justification. While Americans could clearly improve the treatment of farm animals the Japanese need to improve the treatment of whales and dolphins. Both cultures have room for improvement.

      • Drew

        I disagree, the cruelty in the cove was extreme and I do not promote cruelty toward any animal. Whales and dolphins do have high levels of emotions and deserve better treatment. The idea that the mistreatment of one group justifies the mistreatment of another is a false justification. While Americans could clearly improve the treatment of farm animals the Japanese need to improve the treatment of whales and dolphins. Both cultures have room for improvement.

      • Drew

        I disagree, the cruelty in the cove was extreme and I do not promote cruelty toward any animal. Whales and dolphins do have high levels of emotions and deserve better treatment. The idea that the mistreatment of one group justifies the mistreatment of another is a false justification. While Americans could clearly improve the treatment of farm animals the Japanese need to improve the treatment of whales and dolphins. Both cultures have room for improvement.

      • SuzanneSmith

        It is not hypocritical to single out whales and dolphins. Their awareness, intelligence, emotional depth and capacity to suffer far outweighs others animals. I am against killing animals for food as we have other options in the world now. But to counter someone who is against Taiji dolphin killing and Japan’s illegal whale hunts with “you are hypocritical because other animas are killed for food” does not work….at all.

      • blondein_tokyo

        I’m interested in why you’d chose whales and dolphins over other animals that we also eat, such as pigs, dogs, and horses. Pigs are highly intelligent and are capable of biding emotionally with humans, as are dogs and horses. Cows are less intelligent, and chickens are bird brains (LOL), but nevertheless deserve the same consideration.

        It’s just not logical to say that one animal deserves special consideration or protection over another, based only on intelligence.

        “All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal” -?

  • blondein_tokyo

    The reason people are against killing dolphins and continuing whaling is more nuanced than this is making it out to be. There are several valid points being glossed over. For example, the manner of killing is incredibly cruel; the meat of dophins isn’t fit for consumption because of the high levels of mercury; there is already an overstock of whale meat because no one eats it these days, which makes killing whales unecesssary and a complete waste; and that the scientific whaling program was found to be nothing but a farce, just an excuse to continue to hunt whales – no actual scientific progess was being made even though it was partially being funded by taxpayers.

    I don’t see how any of those arguments are racist, as so many people are saying, since none of them have anything at all to do with race.

    If Japan wants to continue hunting dolphins and whales, they shouldn’t do so under the guise of science. They should just outright defy the IWC and refuse to obey international law. Besides, eating dolphin meat high in mercury is okay, as long as you are not pregnant, and of course, children shouldn’t eat it. They should also tell the people who are concerned about consesrvation of natural resources and animal cruelty that animals don’t need protection because it’s nonsense for the suffering of animals to take precedence over their profits.

    That’s the truth, isnt it? And what is wrong with wanting to make a profit? Why should they care what other people think, as long as they are making money? Profit is the aim of busienss, isn’t it? It makes one wonder why they bother trying to disguise their real intentions.

    Funny. It’s as if on some level, they realize that putting profit above everything else – health, conservation of natural resources, animal cruelty – is looked down on and thought of as immoral. Hmmm.

  • blondein_tokyo

    The reason people are against killing dolphins and continuing whaling is more nuanced than this is making it out to be. There are several valid points being glossed over. For example, the manner of killing is incredibly cruel; the meat of dophins isn’t fit for consumption because of the high levels of mercury; there is already an overstock of whale meat because no one eats it these days, which makes killing whales unecesssary and a complete waste; and that the scientific whaling program was found to be nothing but a farce, just an excuse to continue to hunt whales – no actual scientific progess was being made even though it was partially being funded by taxpayers.

    I don’t see how any of those arguments are racist, as so many people are saying, since none of them have anything at all to do with race.

    If Japan wants to continue hunting dolphins and whales, they shouldn’t do so under the guise of science. They should just outright defy the IWC and refuse to obey international law. Besides, eating dolphin meat high in mercury is okay, as long as you are not pregnant, and of course, children shouldn’t eat it. They should also tell the people who are concerned about consesrvation of natural resources and animal cruelty that animals don’t need protection because it’s nonsense for the suffering of animals to take precedence over their profits.

    That’s the truth, isnt it? And what is wrong with wanting to make a profit? Why should they care what other people think, as long as they are making money? Profit is the aim of busienss, isn’t it? It makes one wonder why they bother trying to disguise their real intentions.

    Funny. It’s as if on some level, they realize that putting profit above everything else – health, conservation of natural resources, animal cruelty – is looked down on and thought of as immoral. Hmmm.

    • Drew

      Yes, they need to realize that this dolphin and whale meat is unhealthy to eat.

    • Drew

      Yes, they need to realize that this dolphin and whale meat is unhealthy to eat.

  • blondein_tokyo

    The reason people are against killing dolphins and continuing whaling is more nuanced than this is making it out to be. There are several valid points being glossed over. For example, the manner of killing is incredibly cruel; the meat of dophins isn’t fit for consumption because of the high levels of mercury; there is already an overstock of whale meat because no one eats it these days, which makes killing whales unecesssary and a complete waste; and that the scientific whaling program was found to be nothing but a farce, just an excuse to continue to hunt whales – no actual scientific progess was being made even though it was partially being funded by taxpayers.

    I don’t see how any of those arguments are racist, as so many people are saying, since none of them have anything at all to do with race.

    If Japan wants to continue hunting dolphins and whales, they shouldn’t do so under the guise of science. They should just outright defy the IWC and refuse to obey international law. Besides, eating dolphin meat high in mercury is okay, as long as you are not pregnant, and of course, children shouldn’t eat it. They should also tell the people who are concerned about consesrvation of natural resources and animal cruelty that animals don’t need protection because it’s nonsense for the suffering of animals to take precedence over their profits.

    That’s the truth, isnt it? And what is wrong with wanting to make a profit? Why should they care what other people think, as long as they are making money? Profit is the aim of busienss, isn’t it? It makes one wonder why they bother trying to disguise their real intentions.

    Funny. It’s as if on some level, they realize that putting profit above everything else – health, conservation of natural resources, animal cruelty – is looked down on and thought of as immoral. Hmmm.

  • blondein_tokyo

    The reason people are against killing dolphins and continuing whaling is more nuanced than this is making it out to be. There are several valid points being glossed over. For example, the manner of killing is incredibly cruel; the meat of dophins isn’t fit for consumption because of the high levels of mercury; there is already an overstock of whale meat because no one eats it these days, which makes killing whales unecesssary and a complete waste; and that the scientific whaling program was found to be nothing but a farce, just an excuse to continue to hunt whales – no actual scientific progess was being made even though it was partially being funded by taxpayers.

    I don’t see how any of those arguments are racist, as so many people are saying, since none of them have anything at all to do with race.

    If Japan wants to continue hunting dolphins and whales, they shouldn’t do so under the guise of science. They should just outright defy the IWC and refuse to obey international law. Besides, eating dolphin meat high in mercury is okay, as long as you are not pregnant, and of course, children shouldn’t eat it. They should also tell the people who are concerned about consesrvation of natural resources and animal cruelty that animals don’t need protection because it’s nonsense for the suffering of animals to take precedence over their profits.

    That’s the truth, isnt it? And what is wrong with wanting to make a profit? Why should they care what other people think, as long as they are making money? Profit is the aim of busienss, isn’t it? It makes one wonder why they bother trying to disguise their real intentions.

    Funny. It’s as if on some level, they realize that putting profit above everything else – health, conservation of natural resources, animal cruelty – is looked down on and thought of as immoral. Hmmm.

  • Drew

    Whales and dolphins have extremely close family interrelationships and have a very high level of communication. They are very special species that deserve special protections which has been appreciated around the world.

  • http://jillun.com/ lionsandbears

    My only response is to recommend CGP Grey’s

    Zebra vs Horses (Americapox Part 2) video. We have things called farms and so forth where we keep loads of cows, sheep, pigs, and chickens. We either keep them in decent comfort until we slaughter them, or keep them horribly miserable until we slaughter them. However, we keep them. If they get ill, we bring a vet or take them to a vet. Not a lot of that, at all, happening for whales and dolphins in the sea.