U.N. official’s claim that 13% of Japanese girls engage in ‘compensated dating’ angers government

Kyodo

The Foreign Ministry has protested remarks by a U.N. official who said 13 percent of schoolgirls in Japan are engaged in enjo kosai, or compensated dating, and called for the comment to be retracted.

The ministry lodged the protest with the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights regarding comments by Maud de Boer-Buquicchio, special rapporteur on the sale of children, child prostitution and child pornography, during her visit to Japan late last month.

The ministry said Monday that De Boer-Buquicchio’s remarks, made Oct. 26 at a news conference in Tokyo, have no objective basis and that it is “unacceptable” to use unreliable information.

Enjo kosai refers to young girls taking money to date older men.

The ministry quoted De Boer-Buquicchio as saying, “I’m referring in particular to this phenomena of enjo kosai, which is a trend amongst schoolgirls. Some 13 percent of the schoolgirls in Japan are involved in that kind of activity.”

The ministry said it has asked the U.N. office to disclose the basis for the “13 percent” claim, but De Boer-Buquicchio’s side has not clearly explained where the figure came from.

  • disqus_vBekJrf7g5

    What is it with Japan and euphemisms?
    ‘Compensated dating’ in the article is used to refer to ‘Schoolgirl prostitution’.
    This is the same logic that makes IJA sex-slaves ‘comfort women’.
    This is a simple ‘rectification of names’ issue. Again, Japan is angry that it has been called out on having a problem, when it should first admit that schoolgirl prostitution is a problem.

    • Clickonthewhatnow

      Compensated dating, as stated in the article, is not just schoolgirl prostitution. It refers to a broader bunch of activities, not all of them directly related to sex. Japan has asked for proof on the 13% quote, as they should, as having information as to where the UN apparently got that from, if valid, would help them resolve the issue. If it’s false, well, even more reason to question it.

      • disqus_vBekJrf7g5

        ‘If’? I don’t think you believe that for a second.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        I believe it could be true. Hence, I’d be interested in knowing where the number comes from, too. I tend to think people should be called out when they put random numbers up without actual supporting evidence, no matter who they are.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        I believe it could be true. Hence, I’d be interested in knowing where the number comes from, too. I tend to think people should be called out when they put random numbers up without actual supporting evidence, no matter who they are.

      • Clickonthewhatnow

        I believe it could be true. Hence, I’d be interested in knowing where the number comes from, too. I tend to think people should be called out when they put random numbers up without actual supporting evidence, no matter who they are.

    • JSS00

      And of course, the astroturfer right-wingers come to defend the Abe government.

  • Hendrix

    Japan just hates it when they get called out, they are incapable of dealing with the truth, better to cover things up and lie or use euphemisms to make it all sound cosy and above board…. this JK statistic is also a result of a society that thinks its perfectly ok to view underage girls as sex objects…

    • Yo Han

      Japan was asking how these 13 percent figure was calculated by UN officials. I see nothing wrong with this question. If you claim something you should be able to prove it with reliable sources.

    • Yo Han

      Japan was asking how these 13 percent figure was calculated by UN officials. I see nothing wrong with this question. If you claim something you should be able to prove it with reliable sources.

    • Yo Han

      Japan was asking how these 13 percent figure was calculated by UN officials. I see nothing wrong with this question. If you claim something you should be able to prove it with reliable sources.

    • Yo Han

      Japan was asking how these 13 percent figure was calculated by UN officials. I see nothing wrong with this question. If you claim something you should be able to prove it with reliable sources.

      • Hendrix

        prove what? that Japan sexualizes underage girls? or They are incapable of dealing with the truth? …it is self evident just open your eyes.. plenty of manga porn showing young girls being raped , also it’s common knowledge that the whole JK business is on the rise… i bet 13% is a conservative figure

      • Yo Han

        Yes, prove it – prove these 13 percent to be true and correct if you can, but obviously there is no proof for such an allegation.
        How to measure it? By your feelings?

        How many underage girls have a sexual relationship in Western countries and expect money in return for their services? I presume more than 13 percent… the only difference I really see, in Japan it is done openly, while in USA and Western countries all is done in hiding and denial.

      • Hendrix

        Its not about statistics its about the fact that this sort of thing goes on and is considered completely normal yet the government would rather save face!

        This is the thing that always gets me about the right wing nationalists in Japan, constantly in denial and deflecting the blame…nearly all of your posts on this matter have something along the lines of ..”well the USA and western countries all do the same …or they are worse…blah blah”

        We know how bad things are in the west and the UK has had many scandals about pedophilia… but you and your right wing mindset just cannot handle any form of criticism about Japan… you are ignorant and i am done replying to you.

      • TomokoHasegawa

        Can you prove that “in USA and Western countries all is done in hiding and denial”? Numbers and facts, please.

      • Yo Han

        Yes, prove it – prove these 13 percent to be true and correct if you can, but obviously there is no proof for such an allegation.
        How to measure it? By your feelings?

        How many underage girls have a sexual relationship in Western countries and expect money in return for their services? I presume more than 13 percent… the only difference I really see, in Japan it is done openly, while in USA and Western countries all is done in hiding and denial.

    • Yo Han

      Japan was asking how these 13 percent figure was calculated by UN officials. I see nothing wrong with this question. If you claim something you should be able to prove it with reliable sources.

    • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ Canaan

      When you talk about euphemism, you’re talking about English. In Japanese, enjo kosai is not a euphemism.

    • JSS00

      Most of the “idols” in Japan are already underage, and the most of the “fans” are middled-aged men. And the society thinks that’s perfectly okay.

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  • KenjiAd

    It’s impossible to get the accurate statistics of this kind, but I think one can reasonably determine the upper limit.

    The upper limit would be the number of HS/MS girls who aren’t virgin. This number should be around 30%.

    Among this ~30%, how many are getting “paid” is anyone’s guess. However, I wouldn’t be surprised at all that many of these girls are having relationship with older guys, who buy some gifts to these girls, not necessarily cash transaction.

    If one includes this type of relationship within the scope of “enjo kousai,” which should be, then the 13% in question doesn’t seem to be unreasonable.

    • Michael Hsu

      That’s not relevant at all. 50% of people in my HS claimed to not be a virgin in an anonymous survey conducted by administration.

  • 99Pcent

    If you are sixteen or around that age in any country, it is more likely that you are going to explore your body’s cravings. Some may do it for money, but that should not be a blanket statement.

    Just look at what Isis is doing to women right now, I mean to waste time on this story is pathetic.

    • Tabula Rasa

      [sarcasm] Yes, it’s usually young girls who “explore [their] body’s cravings.” [sarcasm]

      • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ Canaan

        I don’t get the sarcasm. That sounds like a good description of human sexuality.

      • Tabula Rasa

        Yes, we need to protect the scores of ugly, old men who are selling their bodies to young girls.

    • disqus_vBekJrf7g5

      That’s a disgusting attempt to justify statutory rape.

      • Yo Han

        It is not statutory rape if a girl around sixteen is giving her full consent to a sexual relationship. Why to blame men for everything? What about teaching girls in Japan and elsewhere to reject ‘compensated dating’? Some feminists even consider ‘compensated dating’ as ‘female empowerment’.

      • Hendrix

        thing is many of these girls are not 16 , they are 14 or 15 or even younger… no excuse for this it is totally sickening and anyone who tries to justify this must be sub human.

      • Yo Han

        You have to explain this to the parents of these girls. Unlike USA, where children can do whatever they like, parents rights are strong in Japan.
        Why do they not control their daughters who are roaming around with unknown men? About 14 or 15 year old girls, this is not unique for Japan, check out about teen pregnancy, underage prostitution in Western countries, some Western countries offer contraception pills to girls as young as 10 and 11 in school, nobody says a word about it and parents do not even have the right to be informed. You are blaming only Japan, but the situation in Western countries is nothing better, even worse.

      • Hendrix

        wow you are like a broken record… i have seen 5 of your comments just deflecting blame to other countries… as i said before, stay on topic we are talking about Japan!

      • TV Monitor

        Hendrix

        Still above the age of consent at 13.

      • TV Monitor

        Hendrix

        Still above the age of consent at 13.

      • TV Monitor

        disqus_vBekJrf7g5

        In Japan, the age of consent is 13. So no statutory rape.

      • TV Monitor

        disqus_vBekJrf7g5

        In Japan, the age of consent is 13. So no statutory rape.

    • Hendrix

      oh ok lets just ignore the problem shall we? let them eat cake

    • Hendrix

      oh ok lets just ignore the problem shall we? let them eat cake

    • Hendrix

      oh ok lets just ignore the problem shall we? let them eat cake

    • Hendrix

      oh ok lets just ignore the problem shall we? let them eat cake

  • Tabula Rasa

    Even if accurate data were easy to get, I’m guessing this government wouldn’t fund the studies anyway. They’d probably be more concerned with looking bad, not with having to fix the problem.

    • Hendrix

      In Japan when there is a problem they don’t try and solve it they just do everything they can to save face.

    • AmIJustAPessimistOrWhat?

      Wrong. The report is there. It has had media exposure.

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  • Hendrix

    The worst thing about all this is the way the government in Japan resort to face saving rather than protecting their kids… Japan is not a safe place for women and children … child abuse, dodgy manga porn depicting kids , stalking on the rise and the whole JK business. What’s the Japanese government doing about it? nothing!

    • Yo Han

      Japan is not a safe place? Japan is one of the safest countries in this world. Look up the crime rate and prison population in other countries, in USA, Latin America and in many African and Asian countries!

      • Manami Gerry Dougherty

        You are partially correct Japan is one of the safest countries in the world, however much of its low crime rate is due to the fact that majority of Japanese police don’t pursue crimes that maybe difficult to solve due to lack of evidence, many violent crimes not having to do with organized crime go unsolved and also unreported in it statistics. There is a vice documentary as well as public records to show on annual 40% of Japanese violent crime and nonviolent crime is placed in cold case.

      • Yo Han

        You can say this about criminality of Western countries too. How many crimes are not reported, as the victim knows it does not make any sense, just time waste?
        How many cases of theft, burglary, robbery or otherwise crimes, also violent ones, are not reported in USA?

      • Hendrix

        yet again another comment deflecting the blame to other countries…where does it end with you?

      • http://lesstalkmoreactivism.blogspot.com/ Canaan

        I don’t follow. Whether the murder is solved or not, it still goes into the crime statistics. If the police don’t pursue the criminals, then the crime rates would skyrocket.

        In America, people don’t care when criminals kill each other either. But it strains belief to suggest large numbers of innocent people are getting killed in Japan and the police doctor the stats.

      • Manami Gerry Dougherty

        Incorrect, crimes that go unsolved due, to lack of evidence and lack of investigation are not counted in the statistics, its a gray area in the law, if there were no funds used then it is not required to be reported, 40% is not a large number at all, in Japan as it is still safer than many other countries. If you were to add the unsolved cold case to Japan’s crime rate it would only increase it by 8%, if you like go to a Japanese city office and request the crime records you see a lot of cold case files annually.

      • Hendrix

        Yeah Japan is safe from muggings and gun crime but when it comes to rape, stalking, child abductions, child prostitution, mentally ill people stabbing people in public etc then no it is not safe… crimes against women and children are on the rise too…do your homework

      • Yo Han

        Well, you should visit some countries in South America or Africa, you would be surprised… Middle East… etc. etc. – Still much better in Japan, believe me…

      • xexex

        Japanese people don’t want anything to do with the police, they don’t report crimes. So of course it’s safe ;)

        But hey, you will just respond with the usual “it’s bad in other countries too” nonsense.

      • Hendrix

        again more deflecting the blame…” other countries are worse..yada yada..” we are talking about Japan stay on topic.

    • Yo Han

      Japan is not a safe place? Japan is one of the safest countries in this world. Look up the crime rate and prison population in other countries, in USA, Latin America and in many African and Asian countries!

    • Yuki

      I don’t know what Manga you’re reading. All mine is about teenagers fighting giant monsters, piloting mechanical suits, or trying to get their school club to succeed.

      You may want to expand your reading material a bit.

      • Hendrix

        I don’t read manga, it’s infantile… but you can’t miss it in 711 when there is a depiction of an underage girl on the front cover being abused or something… also for research purposes i have seen inside these manga and it was repulsive… open your eyes

      • http://jigsy1.blogspot.com/ Jigsy

        Except lolicon manga harms absolutely nobody.

        I do agree that the manufacture of the exploitive “junior idol” DVDs and photobooks needs to be criminalized, though.

      • Hendrix

        what? you must be having laugh… if not then you are abviously low life scum who gets off on this stuff.

      • Hendrix

        what? you must be having laugh… if not then you are abviously low life scum who gets off on this stuff.

      • http://jigsy1.blogspot.com/ Jigsy

        Explain how drawn artwork and illustrated literature harm anybody.

        Or do you just hate the fact that people exist with an attraction that they can’t choose and you can’t abolish?

      • Hendrix

        what? you must be having laugh… if not then you are abviously low life scum who gets off on this stuff.

      • Tabula Rasa

        It’s the violent porn that’s displayed and consumed in public in Japan that’s troubling, not the GP stuff.

  • mick Fujiyama

    The United Nations should give the sauce. Even in the 90’s when enjyo-kosai become problem, a number of girl that has been involved was 4% in Benesse investigation in 1997. Angry netizens who doubt this 13% number are searching for the clue. They found article from ”Tokyo Weekender” in 2002 have multiply quoted by the western media , such as “TIME” or ”wikipedia” etc, but though the first sauce only shows number of ”non-reluctance” for the enjyo-kosai , the quoted somehow mislead this number into the ”involvement” without checking. I feel strongly regret if this is true. The United Nations should clarify the fact.

    • Hendrix

      Sauce… what tomato sauce? what are you talking about ?

      • mick Fujiyama

        I meant for SOURCE INFORMATION , or reference information , quotation origin , you can say. Never heard of the word?

      • Hendrix

        yeah i put it on my hot dogs.

      • Hendrix

        yeah i put it on my hot dogs.

    • Hendrix

      Sauce… what tomato sauce? what are you talking about ?

    • AmIJustAPessimistOrWhat?

      You are right! No hope for people who want to be ignorant. Stooping to tea-party level.

  • mick Fujiyama

    The United Nations should give the sauce. Even in the 90’s when enjyo-kosai become problem, a number of girl that has been involved was 4% in Benesse investigation in 1997. Angry netizens who doubt this 13% number are searching for the clue. They found article from ”Tokyo Weekender” in 2002 have multiply quoted by the western media , such as “TIME” or ”wikipedia” etc, but though the first sauce only shows number of ”non-reluctance” for the enjyo-kosai , the quoted somehow mislead this number into the ”involvement” without checking. I feel strongly regret if this is true. The United Nations should clarify the fact.

  • tiger

    they are the new comfort women

    • TV Monitor

      tiger

      Wrong. Non-Japanese Comfort women were kidnapped against their wills. These school girls are willing participants.

      • JSS00

        Willing participants that were underage? It’s not so simple.

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  • tiger

    they are the new comfort women

  • TV Monitor

    Yet another example of Japanese government in denial of truth. Seriously, Japan’s enjokosai problem is common knowledge everywhere.

    Japanese government needs to stop being a professional liar.

  • TV Monitor

    Yet another example of Japanese government in denial of truth. Seriously, Japan’s enjokosai problem is common knowledge everywhere.

    Japanese government needs to stop being a professional liar.

  • Tabula Rasa

    The commenters trying to defend and justify all of this seem to focus only on quantitative data (that’s hard to get for this kind of social problem) and (unfair) laws established by the privileged, while excluding qualitative data. Numbers and rules are a double-edged sword…they can be proof and ensure equal treatment, but they can also be unfairly used against victims under the right conditions, like those criminals who get off on technicalities and loopholes. Magus might be on to something if (s)he thinks the UN’s trying to use more of an Al-Capone-tax-evasion strategy.

  • xexex

    And as usual when it comes to Japan, instead of trying to solve the issue, the fight becomes about numbers. Is it really 13%? Or is it perhaps 11%!

  • AmIJustAPessimistOrWhat?

    I could find what looks to an original source of these results

    “モノグラフ・高校生’98 vol.52 援助交際”

    The 4% figure is there for enjyokousai in Tokyo greater metropolitan area, but the 1/3 figure seems to be for “telephone chat line at least once” which is still rather depressing but quite a different thing. As the survey also makes clear, the definition of enjyokousai includes two girls going out to dinner with an ojisan, as well as more decadent behavior. Again, all dismal but not all prostituion.

    I really think the High Commissioner for Human Rights whould have had the report translated and studied it deeply herself if she really cared.

    Her making a statement which appears to mean that 1/3 of Japanese high girls engage in prostitution based on information probably passed to her by word of mouth by people who may have a grudge against Japan is a really stupid, rude, unprofessional thing to do.

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    • Tabula Rasa

      1998? Oh really.

    • mick Fujiyama

      The problem of this subject is, not about focus enjyo-kosai, but cherry-picking unknown number that she can even hardly explain about.
      If one’s word is untrusted that would ruin the whole thing.
      United Nation has responsibility for it’s own word for world trust. So disappointed if United Nation said this in ease. Raising problem is not just the end.

      • TomokoHasegawa

        Haggling over the number to the 0.00001 decimal will not solve Japan’s problems. It’s time to start facing the problems honestly, not blaming people who find them.

      • mick Fujiyama

        As far as I know, no one is complaining about the problem it self. but talking number 3 times higher than actual research is nothing you can protect about. Justifying this act is no different to protecting the cheap media that instigate. Because that is not the FACT. That is far from the reality I know as well. UN is a power and I am talking about their faithfulness. Good to know that she backtracks her faults. Japan should act for those girls and I agrees with that.

  • AmIJustAPessimistOrWhat?

    Why not read the original original report “モノグラフ・高校生’98 vol.52 援助交際”. The “tip of the iceberg” statement is not in that report. That report shows 1/3 of girls having done “telephone chat line” at least once – which does not fall under the definition of enjyokousai in that report.

  • J.P. Bunny

    “How dare people say such things about our schoolgirls. Now time to get to our tentacle porn.”

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  • Debra Smith

    So with the Saudis in charge of Human rights what could possibly be the problem? Is it that they want the young women to serve them for FREE?

  • Steve Jackman

    This is clearly a problem in Japan. Whether the actual percentage is 13 percent or not does not change this fact.

    Vice magazine did an excellent documentary recently titled, “Schoolgirls for Sale in Japan”, which sheds light on the problem of enjo kosai (compensated dating) by high school girls in Japan. The documentary and article, dated July 21, 2015, are available on the Vice Website. Here’s an extract:

    “Japan’s obsession with cutesy culture has taken a dark turn, with schoolgirls now offering themselves for “walking dates” with adult men. Last year the US State Department, in its annual report on human trafficking, flagged so-called joshi-kosei osanpo dates (that’s Japanese for “high school walking”) as fronts for commercial sex run by sophisticated criminal networks.

    In our exclusive investigation, VICE News host Simon Ostrovsky will bring you to one of Tokyo’s busiest neighborhoods, where girls solicit clients in their school uniforms, to a concert performed by a band of schoolgirls attended by adult men, and into a café, where teenage girls are available to hire by the hour. But the true revelations come behind closed doors, when schoolgirls involved in the rent-a-date industry reveal how they’ve been coerced into prostitution.”

  • TomokoHasegawa

    Unless you present more trustful numbers, you look quite ridiculous.

  • Steve Chan

    blame the materialism I guess? However during my recent visit to Japan, most girls do not strike me as materialistic at all.