Moscow says if Japan wants peace deal, it must ‘recognize’ postwar ‘historic realities’


Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov indicated that there is no room for compromise over the disputed islands off Hokkaido and called on Tokyo to “recognize” post-World War II “historic realities.”

Lavrov met Monday with Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida, who is in Russia on a three-day visit to address the dispute over the four islands that were seized by Soviet troops just after Japan surrendered.

The two countries have never officially struck a peace treaty for World War II and have had bitter disputes over the islands for decades, hampering trade ties.

Kishida indicated in his remarks, which were translated into Russian, that the two countries should “create a mutually acceptable solution to the territorial issue” over the islands of Etorofu, Kunashiri, Shikotan and the Habomai islets.

“We had in-depth discussions about the territorial issue,” Kishida said at a joint news conference after meeting with Lavrov for almost three hours. “Minister Lavrov and I were able to share a view that our countries should find ways for a mutually acceptable solution.”

However, Lavrov appeared to reject the Japanese term for the islands itself.

“Neither the ‘Northern Territories’ of Japan nor the ‘Northern Territories’ of Russia are the subject of our dialogue. On our agenda is reaching the peace deal,” he said.

“Moving forward on this issue is possible only after we see clearly Japan’s recognition of historic realities. The work is difficult and the difference in positions is vast,” Lavrov said of peace talks, which Kishida and Lavrov agreed would nevertheless continue Oct. 8 by deputy foreign ministers.

Resumption of the talks between Deputy Foreign Minister Shinsuke Sugiyama and his Russian counterpart, Igor Morgulov, could be a key step toward resolving the territorial spat. Sugiyama and Morgulov met in February, but their talks covered broader aspects of bilateral ties.

Previously, Tokyo and Moscow discussed the issue in January 2014, but the process was put on ice after Moscow annexed the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine that March.

A visit last month by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev to one of the islands was met with strong protests by Tokyo, reportedly even throwing Kishida’s visit into doubt.

Kishida renewed Japanese protests over repeated trips by Russian Cabinet members to some of the disputed islands.

He was quoted by a Japanese official as saying the trips were “extremely regrettable and unacceptable.”

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Medvedev’s visit to Etorofu, called Iturup by Russia, “conflicts with Japan’s position” and is “extremely regrettable.”

The two ministers on Monday also discussed the long-delayed visit by President Vladimir Putin to Japan, but Lavrov said that while the Kremlin has accepted the invitation, the specific date is up to Tokyo.

“It would be important to ensure that a new summit is filled with substance,” Lavrov said. “To pose preconditions for high-level meetings is hardly productive.”

  • tisho

    but they have recognized them. There is just a different perception of what the reality is in both countries.

  • Liars N. Fools

    i often wonder why Japan pursues the impossible with North Korea and the far from likely with Russia. Guess it comes from a sense of victimhood seeking redress.

  • J.P. Bunny

    Russia consistently tells Japan that the islands belong to Russia and that there is no deal to be had. In response, Japan keeps sending people to negotiate the return of the islands. What part of “no” does Japan not understand?

    • Faramith Grey

      This is diplomacy not your flying spaghetti.

    • Faramith Grey

      This is diplomacy not your flying spaghetti.

  • Ahojanen

    Lavrov is wrong in saying “if Japan wants a peace deal..” No rush is sought for Japan’ side. It is Russia who, under troubled economy, is a bit desperate for a peace deal and financial and tech support from Japan. Russia must recognize current realities.

  • skillet

    I hope Japan gets it all back. Will be difficult though.

    • Hanneke Koppenaal Konosu

      The islands originally were independent, belonged to no one.

  • spengler1

    Ever since the Russian leadership has been visiting the disputed territories the chances for a peaceful resolution has been lost. The best opportunity for a resolution was during the Yeltsin period and even then the parliament was against the return of any islands.. Russia is banking that a younger generation in Japan will simply lose interest in the “northern territories”.

    • Jeffrey

      Russia is banking that a younger generation in Japan will simply lose interest in the “northern territories”.

      Might as well – most everyone else has. Other than extended fishing rights, they aren’t worth anything and the didn’t all belong to Japan in the first place. I don’t think all that many Ainu ever lived on them either. People tend to forget that most of them, including part of Sakhalin, were ceded to Japan after the Russo-Japanese War in 1905.

      If Japan wants to be upset with anyone about this it’s the U.S. that deserves the enmity. Had we thought this through they would have provided great listening posts for the military through the Cold War.

  • Ray Wilson

    One of these years I think Russia is going to try to renege on the sale of Alaska to the U.S., especially now that the search for more oil has begun.

  • CLJF

    Lavrov is delusional if he thinks Japan will even entertain the idea of a peace deal that doesn’t include the Northern Territories, as this issue would be the central one for Japan in any peace negotiation. I agree, however, that Japan’s best chance of getting the issue resolved, and at least some of the islands, was lost during the Yeltsin years.