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Welfare ruling stuns foreigners

by Tomohiro Osaki

Staff Writer

Friday’s landmark decision by the Supreme Court that permanent foreign residents of Japan are not entitled to welfare benefits will discourage more municipalities than ever from doling out such aid amid ballooning public assistance expenditures, experts said Saturday.

Responding to a lawsuit filed by an 82-year-old Chinese resident of Oita, the top court stated in the first ruling of its kind that, legally speaking, permanent foreign residents don’t qualify for public assistance because they aren’t considered Japanese nationals.

The ruling is significant in that it finally clarifies whether permanent residents are eligible to claim welfare. For years, municipalities have been distributing welfare payments to financially needy foreigners with permanent or long-term residency status, including the spouses of Japanese and migrant workers from Brazil.

Municipalities have been granting aid at their own discretion after being advised to do so from a “humanitarian” point of view by the central government in 1954. But that never meant foreigners actually qualified for the aid like Japanese. Although they could apply for it, they had no recourse if turned down, because the way the municipalities see it, welfare payments had never been foreigners’ legal right to claim.

The verdict legally enshrines this de facto state of affairs, making it official that foreign residents have no legal basis to claim eligibility for public assistance.

From now on, foreign residents will still be free to apply for welfare payments but will likely face slimmer odds of receiving them, experts said.

“The impact of the Supreme Court decision is huge,” said Eriko Suzuki, an associate professor at Kokushikan University in Tokyo who specializes in foreign labor issues.

“As municipalities nationwide are struggling to cut back on ever-snowballing costs related to welfare benefits for the poor, concerns are rising that they might (take advantage of the ruling) to stiffen their scrutiny of foreign eligibility, or even drive foreigners away before properly examining their claims,” she said, adding that rising anti-foreigner sentiment could escalate that prospect.

At present, foreigners without permanent or long-term residency visas aren’t even allowed to apply for welfare payments because their immigration status only allows them to stay in Japan as long as they’re employed.

Hiroshi Tanaka, a professor emeritus of sociology at Hitotsubashi University, agreed that the court’s decision will make it psychologically easier for municipalities to deny aid to non-Japanese.

He also denounced the ruling as “outdated” and “sure to make Japan a target of global ridicule,” as it reinforces the notoriously indifferent attitude that Japanese judges take toward the protection of human rights.

There was a time, he said, when Japan discriminated against foreigners in almost every aspect of the social security system, including child rearing allowances and the national pension plan. But that began to change after Japan joined a series of United Nations-designated treaties in the 1970s and 1980s, giving it the appearance of an “egalitarian society” true to the principals of those accords.

Yet poverty relief for the poor remains one of the few areas where foreigners are still discriminated against, or at least denied the same legal rights as Japanese.

“Foreigners pay taxes,” Tanaka said. “If you pay taxes, you should be eligible for the social security system that you’ve contributed to. That’s a common sense understanding.”

  • Ron NJ

    Your article is incorrect. The plaintiff isn’t “from China”, she is from Japan. She was born and raised here, and just happens to be ethnically Chinese.

    • Gordon Graham

      and nationally Chinese

    • phu

      The article doesn’t say she’s from China; only the photo caption says that. Since the article itself doesn’t make that mistake, I’d guess a less linguistically careful member of the editorial staff than the author wrote the caption.

  • Demosthenes

    What an absolute crock! If I were going to live in Japan on a permanent residency visa, I’d be thinking of every way I could to dodge paying my taxes and sticking it to the system. Like hell I’m going to work like a slave, and be taxed on my hard labor, just to keep up the security net for the ‘privileged ones.’ This whole ordeal smacks of the beginnings of a 21st Century caste system in Japan.

  • Steve Jackman

    The Japanese judicial system has once again shown its true colors of being deeply unfair, racist, discriminatory and xenophobic.

    This ruling means that Japan will now officially exploit its non-Japanese residents by having them subsidize the welfare benefits the government hands out to Japanese citizens. I say this because social welfare benefits in Japan are funded by consumption taxes which are levied on almost all goods and services. Non-Japanese residents pay exactly the same consumption taxes as Japanese citizens, however they are now not eligible to qualify for any welfare benefits if they fall upon hard times.

    It is despicable and pathetic that a rich country like Japan feels the need to exploit its small population of non-Japanese residents in such a manner and to rob them of the benefits they should be entitled to receive from social insurance programs which they have paid into. It is the same as being forced to pay insurance premiums for an insurance policy (such as life, car or home insurance), without ever having the ability to draw any benefits from the insurance program. This is a sad and shameful day for Japan.

    • Terry “The Invader” Xu

      I can just hear this guy, sputtering behind his monitor because he thinks he’s entitled to something he’s not. How much you want to bet he’s a leftist who believes people are equal?

      What was racist about this? Just because they pay taxes, they should be treated like a local? I wouldn’t want any non-Chinese to have welfare in China either. Western standards of compassion have no place in civilized countries.

      • Kur DoKolene

        Non- Chinese are allowed to have welfare benefits in civilized China.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        And it should be stopped, genius.

      • lordblazer

        if they are permament residents, lived in China for over 10 to maybe 15 years. Then they have invested in China and have a stake in living in that country. Yea, they should be eligible for welfare. Sorry dude. I don’t like this argument you’re using because by such logic then people should be living in countries that correspond with their race, language and religion. You argument against western concepts yet you’re steadily using the western concept of nation-state (only been around for 700 yrs btw) for your own agenda/arguments.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        The world would be a much better place if people lived in countries that correspond with their race, language and religion. Which by the way, is not the Western definition of a nation-state, assuming you can even define it.

      • midnightbrewer

        If that was the case, then China would have to break into 55 countries and stop its imperialist expansion into the South China Sea.

      • Koen Renmans

        Why do you think China does just do that? They claim every place that has had a ruler that sent tribute (whether pro forma, for economic or internal political reasons, China does not care) to China in the past (even if that’s the Mongol court btw) .

        In many cases China sent families to such countries so they now have an excuse to step in and claim they came in to help their fellow Chinese (cfr what Russia does and says in Crimea)

      • lordblazer

        I have a better understanding of it than you do seeing that I am a political scientists, and I consult in international strategic planning. I understand it a lot better than you do.

      • PS

        So why don’t you move? Stop visiting your “glooooorious motherland” and just move back there, and take your oh-so-amazing knowledge about the west and put it to use there. Why are you still in Canada making a fuzz about people not living in their “own counties”… damn.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        But then who would be establishing a Han stronghold in Canada?

      • Super Bus

        If you hate liberal thinking and equal benefits for foreigners, maybe you should act as an example by leaving California and moving back to China.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        What makes you think I live in California?

        I’m sure the Chinese living there love your benefits, though.

      • Super Bus

        Your profile has your location listed as such.

        Thanks. They’re entitled to them.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        CA = Canada.

        You are welcome. Can’t say we’d do the same for you though.

      • Super Bus

        I thought that might be the case, but that would make the irony all the sweeter.

        Also, who is “we”? You’re not Chinese anymore, bucko. The mainland sure doesn’t want you back.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Really? Last time I checked, I was still Han Chinese.

        The mainland thirsts for repatriates, btw. Especially the kind who’ve soaked up foreign knowledge.

      • Super Bus

        Nope. You’re a Chinese-Canadian who appears to have an identity crisis brewing. You also probably speak pidgin mandarin or have a silly accent.

        “t-they’ll take me back! You’ll see!”

        LOL! Yeah, and I could reintegrate into an Amish community tomorrow if I wanted to, because my ancestors were Pennsylvania Dutch.

        But please, don’t let me dissuade you. Return to the glorious motherland. Tell me how it goes. :^)

        Smell ya later, masturbator.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        I visit the glorious motherland on a regular basis, but you may believe what comforts you.

        Funny thing is, even if I spoke no mandarin, and they WOULDN’T take me back, I and others like me would still be working for Han interests in other parts of the globe.

        Does this upset you?

      • Ivan Pavlović

        “Glorious motherland” you are obviously some righty exstremist that will blow himself up one day in a remote place…

      • Perry Constantine

        We can only hope. One less moron corrupting the gene pool.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        What exactly is extreme about it?

      • PS

        You checked? Like DNA-testing making 100% sure you don’t got any “bad blood” in you? Wow, dat my friend… is dedication…. *slow applause*

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        The Han are not defined by genetic purity, good try though.

      • PS

        What are you doing in Canada? Shouldn’t you move back to China? This whole thing is getting weird…

      • https://twitter.com/chanceawilson Chance Wilson

        He probably snuck in with cheap Chinese products coming to Canada.. god knows Canadians are MUCH more open minded and decent than “Terry.”

      • PS

        Yeah, a “Unabashed Chinese nationalist and Champion of Inequality” who calls himself for Terry and lives in Canada bashing the welfare system that he himself have been living under…

      • https://twitter.com/chanceawilson Chance Wilson

        May even be a Chinese spy.. what average person says this: “I visit the glorious motherland on a regular basis, but you may believe what comforts you”?

        Somebody should call the Royal Mounted Police.

      • PS

        Nah, think the chinese government would be smarter than that and use a I dunno, a more discreete approach. But then again, they might know that we think that they think that, and use the opposite method. DUN-DUN-DUUUUN! *que dramatic music*

      • KidsThatKilledDisco

        He’ll be at school, getting terrible grades

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        I don’t see what’s weird about it. Genetic dominance via emigration is actually not an uncommon idea within nationalist circles.

      • midnightbrewer

        It’s racist because it excludes tax payers from tax-funded programs based on nationality, not based on their tax payment status. If you don’t want non-Chinese to have welfare in China, then you shouldn’t expect them to pay taxes, either. Money in, money out.

        The court’s decision also puts Japan in a complicated position as they may be in breach of international law based on the treaties they have signed.

        As for myself, I have permanent residency, pay taxes and have a Japanese wife. This ruling puts a future potential burden on our families, punishing them for her decision to marry me. The ruling indirectly burdens its own citizens for fraternizing with foreigners. That’s discrimination.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        That makes no sense. If you have foreigners paying taxes without having to give them welfare, that’s a net gain for your nation.

        You’ve made two mistakes without even realizing it.

        1. Assuming that racism is a bad thing.
        2. Assuming that people should be treated equally.

        A country is ideally an ethnostate that favors its locals, presumably from the dominant ethnic majority. Failure to do so engenders or at very least, abets multiculturalism. Why should any government enact policy that leads down the path of failure?

      • Perry Constantine

        The 1800s called, they’d like their mentality back.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Reality called, our mentality is the human norm outside of white liberal circles.

      • PS

        Go back to your cave, troll.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        シェーシャ

      • PS

        意味は?

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        九頭龍

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Do you disagree, or are you a white liberal who can’t handle reality?

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        黑龍會

      • PS

        Humanity called, we are going to stop the earth, so you can get off and be happy somewhere else.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        You would have to dump off the rest of humanity as well, leaving just a small community of wishy-washy white leftists to struggle and feed themselves.

      • PS

        I could live with that, so when are you leaving? We wishy-washy leftist want to throw a party when you get off.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        We’re not going anywhere. It was your idea, remember? I await your attempts to remove us from this planet.

      • Anon0920

        I’d actually appreciate it if you stayed, that way when sociologists need more grant money, all they need to do is give your comment chain as an example of what the world would be like without sociology.

        In fact, there’s a museum of bigotry being opened up sometime in the future and you could very well earn a seat, be sure to apply quickly!

      • Andre5000

        I love reading your opinions on a white liberal news site sent by a white liberal internet company, on which you speak in well-educated English- the only language that matters. I wonder, how many milliseconds can you go without desperately needing a white liberal’s mindset? Struggle to feed ourselves indeed. You wouldn’t last ten minutes without white liberals.

      • Master of Unlocking

        Gee, why am I not surprised that a Chinese person would think like this?

        I should at least be glad that you’re actually siding with Japan on something, instead of wanting the Japanese dead like most Chinese do.

        By the way, with your thinking, you’d get right along with white supremacist groups like the Ku Klux Klan. If they didn’t think you were a subhuman who deserves to be exterminated, that is.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        黑龍會

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Why are you surprised any person would think like this? I haven’t said anything extreme, just brutally honest. And look at the anger it provoked in white leftists.

        Your average human being is going to sound nice and compassionate most of the time. But when they feel their identity is being threatened by too many outsiders, they begin to think like I do. I simply have foresight.

      • Master of Unlocking

        Hmm, I don’t know about “brutally honest.” Stupid, yes.

        Seeing as hardly anyone agrees with you here, I think it’s a bit presumptuous of you to claim to speak for the entire human race.

        You also seem to have some strange issues with “white leftists”. For some reason, you keep bringing them up in every post you make, even though not everyone who posts here is a white leftist. Did a white leftist molest you when you were a kid or something?

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Do you believe the people here represent humanity? I remind you, this is a English news site for a non-English speaking country, prone to harbor complaining foreigners.

        White leftists are at the forefront of spreading equalist propaganda around the globe, and thus are the most problematic demographic in the world.

      • Master of Unlocking

        Well, I’m not a white leftist, and I’d rather you not speak for me, so…

      • muhdik

        youre right you are a “white” bolshevik, amirite

      • Brian Martin

        Nope, i’m a black humanist. You sound very unintelligent btw. Pick up a sociology book and learn something mr “Terry” the Chinese Canadian.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        “Humanist”

        That is unfortunate. Let me remind you that sociology, as practiced in the West, is merely an academic face for leftism, and should not be treated as serious scholarship.

      • Anon0920

        One thing you might learn if you study some basic sociology and/or anthropology is that stereotypes are deep-rooted and difficult to change in people.

        An example would be how you swiftly avoid changing your stereotype that just white people would like to encourage egalitarianism throughout the world.

        Brian Martin, a black man, submitted his opinion that follows what you call “leftist” ideals (whatever “leftist” is supposed to mean is another story entirely) in the face of this evidence that contradicts your stereotype, you decide to try to change the subject of your hate to avoid having to deal with the inaccuracy of your stereotype…

        You are the classic example of why sociology is one of the most important and serious forms of scholarship that exists.

        I would like to submit to you something else, in a different comment of yours you said something to the tune of “It is natural for humans to be racist…” you’re not wrong, generalizing things (which is racism in its fundamental form) was a key adaptive trait that helped us survived in the wild, but we’re not in the wild anymore.

        Maybe, just maybe, it is natural for educated humans to think in terms of egalitarianism… that people should be judged based upon their effort, their skills, and not their connections or family.

        If you read this entire thing, hey, that’s the first step to becoming a better person: reading… it might sound difficult, but go ahead and give it a try you might like it.

      • muhdik

        >black humanist
        >not unintelligent

        pick one

      • Chase Suðrland

        Leftists are cancer in the heart of every nation.

      • muhdik

        I love how your comment is riddled with logical fallacies. This is why you cannot win the debate based on facts but rather your feelings and emotions.

      • Master of Unlocking

        Oh look, another pitiful Internet tough guy, talking big about “facts” and “logical fallacies” without mentioning a single one. I sincerely doubt that you would know what a logical fallacy is if it slapped you in the face.

        I have a question for you. Do you actually think about anything you say before you say it, or do you immediately vomit out whatever verbal diarrhea originates in your diseased brain?

      • Michael Washington

        No, not just “white leftists”, but really all people with logic, common sense and humanity. That is who you are provoking with your outdated thinking.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        I’ll assume you are American, and therefore hold standards that differ from most of humanity. Despite what your liberals tell you, “bigoted” is not the same as outdated.

      • Michael Washington

        I lived in Japan for 6 years, travel to/toured worked as an educator or performed in South Korea, Indonesia, Thailand, Spain, Egypt, Malaysia, China, Canada, Mexico, Colombia, Costa Rica and all over the Caribbean. I definitely do not have the perspective of what you think a “typical American” would. Oh and actually, being bigoted is outdated.
        Now I will go ignoring you since replying to you was a true waste of my brain power and time….

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Ignore away. But here is a revelation.

        The people you met in Japan, Korea, Indonesia, Thailand, Spain, Egypt, Mexico, Colombia, are not much different from me. Only too polite to speak their minds to you.

      • Anon0920

        Japanese people are very different from you, in fact many of them despise you.

        Koreans… well, you have North Koreans on your side, but that has mixed meanings behind it. South Korea is an entirely different country than China… if you think China and South Korea are even remotely similar you’ve never been to South Korea. As for the rest of the countries listed, you’ve again never been there as far as I can tell…

        The people in Spain, Mexico, and Egypt I know for a fact are more frank than most Americans are…

      • torazame

        Yes, dont waste your time on worthless.

      • Anon0920

        Why are you insulting yourself?

        The way you wrote your comment implies that you think your mentality is bigoted… by the definition of bigoted, this means you think your opinion is superior to others and that you look down on others opinions…

        Which isn’t exactly wrong, just it would seem odd for you to insult yourself like that

      • torazame

        Please dont think normal Chinese like this shamed one.

      • blackpassenger

        you’re correct, totally agree. correction: white, western liberal circles.

      • Anon0920

        Well… for the record… if the US was racist… the US wouldn’t have traded with China (because china consists of a population that is not white) and your country would be flat-out broke… how’s that for a reality check?

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        Like Commodore Perry aboard a black-hulled steam frigate, with Mississippi, Plymouth, Saratoga, and Susquehanna at Uraga Harbor near Edo on July 8, 1853?

        Ordering his ships to turn their guns towards the town of Uraga?

      • PS

        Yupp, they are calling… what’s your point?

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        Ich bin der Orden des Drachen… 黑龍會

      • PS

        Det er jo troll overalt! Det er vanskelig nok med å drepe troll i norske kommentarfelt, men jeg innser at dette er en jobb som går over internasjonale grenser desverre. Så for å kommentere din kommentar. Jeg er Erik Blodøks Internett Trolljegern.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        Ben Dragon Siparis duyuyorum… bok yemek, yahudi ibne…

      • PS

        Your googletranslate skillz are aaaaamazzing, like oh my god!

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        “Gott mit uns”… If Vladimir is the next Charlemagne, I can adjust my uniform to match, Schwanzlutscher… “Съ нами Богъ”

      • PS

        antoher… like… words.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        龍王

      • John Fagget

        Don’t mind Terry, he’s a bigoted moron attempting to sound intelligent.

      • Juan Bracich

        Since when is racism and treating people unequally based on race or gender or ethnicity or religion (or lack of one) a good thing?

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Wrong question. Since when was it a bad thing?

        If I were to immigrate to some country, and demand equal treatment, I would upset their own supremacy within their nation. Discrimination is their only line of defense, and most people who aren’t naive enough to believe in equality would exercise it.

      • Ivan Pavlović

        You clearly have Issues in your mindset Terry… “If I were to immigrate to some country, and demand equal treatment, I would upset their own supremacy within their nation.” I think anyone who read this out loud will just sigh… as Billy Madison once said: ” i award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul “

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        वासुकी

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        But do you disagree with it? What I’ve said is simply what most of humanity thinks when there are too many immigrants in their communities, albeit articulated clearly so as not to spare western feelings.

      • italian guy

        Don’t listen to these anti-Whites, they hate themselves and want to destroy the West, they don’t give a crap about equality.
        Europe for Europeans, China for the Chinese!

      • DestroyErase

        Your diligence in figuratively raping these bleeding hearts has inspired me, Terry. I understand now why Hitler deemed Asians as honorary Aryans.

      • Perry Constantine

        So how come you’re in Canada? Why don’t you go live in China so you can only be around your “pure” race? Hypocrite.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        How come you don’t shoot yourself after shooting your enemies? It’s only fair.

        Only a white liberal would think this an valid argument.

        Hypocrisy is the first tool of self-interest. It’s good for your tribe to occupy larger demographic niche in the world, but not good for others to do the same on your turf. Isn’t that obvious?

      • Master of Unlocking

        Somebody failed Basic Morality 101.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Rationalists don’t think based on morality.

      • Master of Unlocking

        If you really think like that, don’t be surprised if someone rationally decides to end your existence.

      • Andre5000

        I think you got “rationalist” confused with “serial killer” there.

      • Anon0920

        If your supremacy is that delicate you don’t have a supremacy… What you have is an elaborate form of bullying and harassment

      • Andre5000

        Equality? Never. If you’re equal to an American I’ll hire whoever is cheaper. If your work output is superior, I’ll offer you more. Discrimination has nothing to do with it, nor does equality.

      • Myu tube

        Wow you are terribly insane.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        What % of the world do you imagine likes having their ethnic homeland overrun by outsiders?

        If I was insane, I’d be saying that all people are born equal

      • Myu tube

        Nobody is talking about Japan being overrun by outsiders, they form a very small fraction of the population. And if you don’t want outsiders then make tougher Visa laws, but don’t discriminate against the people who have been working in this country for decades.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        Ben Dragon Sipariş duyuyorum… türban takan dallama…

      • Myu tube

        Teri maa ki choot bhosdike.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        Bok yemek, yahudi…

      • Myu tube

        Tera baap yahudi bhen ke lode.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        孫中山

      • PS

        some… stuff.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        舍沙

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Why not? The discrimination is what prevents that small fraction from becoming a large fraction in the first place.

      • Myu tube

        No point discussing anything with you, your brain is as small as are your eyes.
        Ooooohhhhhh did that burn? Do you like me now? I’m being racist you see.

      • PS

        I get it, your not insane, you’re just a well played internet troll… Aaw, damn. I always get fooled by this internet trolls. Nobody can be this stupid. This is like Putin stupid.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        Russia has real soldiers on their border and no gay pride marches in their army… imagine that…

        Who is defending the border of the United States?

        Idiot.

      • PS

        What, omg, you wrote somthing I don’t have to use google translate to understand?!? Hahaha, real soldiers, who shoot down the malaysian plane and killed every innocent people onboard? Yeah, real nice. And why aren’t I in shock finding out that you hate homosexual people. I wonder sometimes, why you people with your belifs and hate don’t just, grow up and develope like a normal human being, because frankly, hating LGBT people, or judging people out of gender or race is below human standards anno 2014.

        Biggot.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        Gehen sie saugen eine Schrotflinte, juden Schwule…

      • PS

        Har du hørt historien om de tre små fisk, som endte sine dager i en fiskehandlerdisk?
        Og de svømte og de svømte og de svømte rundt,
        for deres mor hadde sagt at svømming var sunt.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        Ne zanima te istina, licemere lopove.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        Gehen sie saugen eine Schrotflinte, juden Schwule…

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        拳法

      • PS

        a word.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        वासव

      • KidsThatKilledDisco

        I hear you Terry we all feel the same about you lot in Hong Kong you cockroach main-landers defecating in the streets, stealing our maternity beds and baby milk. You want in on Hong Kong though don’t you, you like it, better than living in your stinking factories and poisoned lands

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        Who is defending the border of the United States?

        Detroit looks worse than Tikrit, Iraq.

      • PS

        One of the reasons Detroits is like this is because of the buisnesses/factories were moved overseas to cheap labour countries. Who is defending the border have nothing to do with Detroit… Wanna blame someone? Blame the owners. Stupid.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        The Democrat party is just a huge terror cell called Al Queerda…

      • PS

        You see, my man Terry thinks, no scratch that KNOWS he’s better than everybody else. Inequality for him means that he gets everything while all people below him (mainly everybody else, even his “own people”) should not get anything. HK want thing like freedom of speech, human rights and so on. Terry dosen’t approve of that, anything that dosen’t benefit him and his middleclass mates is not good. He is like one of those that kicks somebody while they are down.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        ナーガラージャ

      • http://alienbunker.com Manso Johnson

        Wow you sick. Go seek medical assistance.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        黑龍會

      • midnightbrewer

        If you have foreigners paying taxers without having to give them welfare, that’s exploitation. The simple repercussion is that you will discourage immigration, which is a net loss for your nation. This not only reduces the labor force but makes your nation less attractive for foreign investors. Indeed, due to its current nationalist/imperialist agenda (by nature bearing certain commonalities with racism), China has seen a 6.7% drop in investment the last quarter alone.

        Additional repercussions may occur in the form of a so-called “brain drain”, when intellectually gifted citizens leave the country in search of better opportunities elsewhere. Racism is functionally an evolutionary dead end in socio-economic terms.

        It is also biologically self-defeating. Cross-breeding with others of different genetic backgrounds benefits the resultant progeny by creating stronger, healthier hybrids.

        Finally, people should be treated equally if for nothing else that it reduces violent reciprocation from the majority of the population which inevitably becomes marginalized.

        I’m an American, and we’re arguably the most successful nation on earth. Our legal framework supports an egalitarian approach to socio-economic advancement and social welfare. While this may not always work out perfectly in practice, at least we’re trying, and benefiting as a result.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Exploitation is the purpose. Racism prevents the destruction of one’s race. Hybrid theories do not apply within the same species except for physical appearance. Nationalism is the intent. Brain drain is not related to racial demographics. Race replacement via immigration is a greater net loss than economic loss. A violent minority cannot defeat an even more violent majority. America’s success comes from past imperialism, not equality.

        You done rattling off left-wing talking points?

      • midnightbrewer

        Racism has not been proven to protect one’s race. That is a philosophy, with no basis in science or historical fact.

        Hybrid theories can only apply to members of the same species, as cross-species breeding is either impossible or results in non-viable offspring.

        I agree: brain drain is not related to racial demographics. It is related to the perception by an individual as to his or her expectations of attaining a reasonable quality of life within their environment. An oppressive, racist regime that rewards individuals based on their inclusion within a specific genetic group and excludes all others is exactly the kind that engenders such conditions.

        Your comment regarding “race replacement” is specious and without explication, so I’ll ignore that.

        You are defining minority along lines of race. If you were, say, Han Chinese, I would expect that you would be very comfortable in your position as the largest ethnic group in the world, not to mention China. However, the majority of Chinese, Han or otherwise, are poor, and your economy is heading towards the toilet. I expect you’ll find that racial ties don’t mean much when they decide that they don’t appreciate the affluence that allows you unfettered access to Facebook despite government controls preventing it.

        America’s history has just as much blood, horror and shame as anyone else’s, but no empire in history has become self-sustaining based on imperialism. We succeed for other reasons.

        You confuse scientific reasoning with politics. Let’s conclude the discussion: you argue that racism and segregation are the norm. You claim in your own tagline that you fight inequality, but you’re arguing for its enforcement. I suggest you edit the tagline or come to terms with your own hypocrisy.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        My tagline says quite clearly, that I fight FOR inequality.

        Racism is the reason why distinct races still exist against the pressures of foreign gene flow. You choose to overlook this as “philosophy” because reality doesn’t suit your worldview. A homogeneous population would not require a racist regime in order to maintain order, and therefore your rationale for brain drain is rendered meaningless.

        Race replacement happens with any sort of immigration policy. Calling it specious does not make it so.

        America’s rather brief success happens to coincide directly with your imperialism. Your social niceties are merely luxuries you can afford with your imperialistic gains.

        What political events occur within a population of the same race has little to do with maintaining the genetic integrity of our race, nor does it somehow justify the importing of outsiders. But to humor your tangent: We shall see where the Chinese economy lies, in relation to the US, in a few decades.

      • https://twitter.com/chanceawilson Chance Wilson

        “America’s rather brief success”

        Pretty sure even WITH all our flaws (No, America contrary to popular belief isn’t some perfect fairyland.) the US is still doing pretty well.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        17 trillion dollars in national debt.

        Millions of diseased illegal aliens flooding in.

        You’re a cúm drunk poody panda…

      • https://twitter.com/chanceawilson Chance Wilson

        “17 trillion dollars in national debt.”

        And we are still the largest economy in the world with one of the highest gdp per capita in the world.

        “Millions of diseased illegal aliens flooding in.”

        Nowhere near than number of illegals are coming to the US. It isn’t even close to 10k.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        Your cities are full of single mothers, fatherless children who prey upon the vulnerable, drug addicts, pedophiles, diseased homosexuals and other filth…

        Who is defending the borders?

        What young man in America with any sense at all would march off to war against the great Russian bear with a cúm drunk moron like you in charge?

        Not very many.

      • https://twitter.com/chanceawilson Chance Wilson

        “Your cities are full of single mothers, fatherless children who prey upon the vulnerable, drug addicts, pedophiles, diseased homosexuals and other filth…”

        You have been watching way too many hollywood movies my friend.

        And to your comment about the “great russian bear”.. the US is without question the most powerful country in the history of humanity. We would DESTROY the Russian Federation if it came to it. You are a hollow shell of the USSR that is much weaker and much more foolish.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        I’m a British skinhead, you stupid goat fúcking douche bag nígger… just stay home… Japan is Japanese… the sun is rising, a Golden Dawn is coming…

      • https://twitter.com/chanceawilson Chance Wilson

        Funny thing is that I have never been near a goat in my life..

        And I highly doubt you have even been to Britain considering that average Briton would consider you a huge wanker, which you pretty much are.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        You have something dripping off your chin…

      • https://twitter.com/chanceawilson Chance Wilson

        And whatever it is still has more class than you.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        毘紐天

      • PS

        yeah, it’s your brain, somebody blew up your head, and now it’s all over the place. sad… not.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        You’re a cúm drunk fággot.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Briefly, and after a period of imperialism, yes.

      • https://twitter.com/chanceawilson Chance Wilson

        I am pretty sure it is China who is redoing borders and claiming parts of other countries as their own.. so I think you may want to get rid of that imperialism part.

      • Andre5000

        For several hundred years. How long has modern China existed? 50 years? 60? I have older lawnmowers.

      • midnightbrewer

        Fair enough. For inequality. At least you’re an honest bigot.

        Racism is a belief; the existence of racism is part of reality, but not as all-encompassing as you would like to believe.

        A homogenous population would have to be globally homogenous to not require a government to maintain its homogeny. The Japanese tried it for two hundred years, but gave it up when they realized that it was going to destroy them.

        It really concerns me that you miss the irony of a member of the world’s oldest, continuing empire lecturing anyone else on the relative merits of imperialism. Pot, meet kettle. And as you are keen to embrace your philosophy of social introversion, I infer that you have little to no personal experience living in my country.

        You would do well to learn the difference between rational thought and rationale the latter which you attempt to use to support your prejudices. Your arguments are weak, illogical, and rely on ad hominem attacks and other logical fallacies. You might know the clever use of words, but they lack depth.

      • https://twitter.com/chanceawilson Chance Wilson

        Don’t waste your time on that guy.. he is clearly an insane Chinese spy undercover in Canada.

      • torazame

        Please dont judge Chinese by someone bad.

      • Anon0920

        For the record, I’m pretty sure everyone arguing against Terry Xu’s racism won’t judge the Chinese race based upon Terry’s behavior… because doing so would be racist…

      • Kuku

        Torazame, as I keep saying: Stupidity knows no race or borders. No one in his right mind can judge a country or a people based on some bad apples. In fact, no one should generalise, no matter whether it is based on culture, religion, sex,…

        I believe that all peoples and nations have idiots, racists, bigots and extremists (of all kind). Just as much as they do humanists, philosophers and people blind to colour, religion or culture.

        Judging a nation is no better than being racist. Things aren’t as black and white, and it would benefit us all to keep that in mind.

      • PS

        Your comments and effort here gives me hope for humanity. It’s good to see that not only stupid people with prejudices and troll-agenda are overtaking the comments with hate and illogical views. Keep up the good work!

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        黑龙会

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Racism is a belief, and a useful one at that. A government is supposed to maintain its demographic homogeneity, which was the point. Japan, and most other countries, still try to do so. China was an imperial state for most of history, and it’s served us well. I understand the dangers of love & tolerance precisely after living in the West.

        You project your own inadequacies onto me as a last ditch attempt to sound legitimate. My arguments address yours directly, while you continuously derail even from your own assertions.

      • James Salsman

        “A government is supposed to maintain its demographic homogeneity”? Why? To perpetuate recessive genetic defects and diseases? Do you know why hybrids outperform inbred “pure” strains in both the plant and animal kingdoms?

      • DestroyErase

        What a bold faced lie. How do you sleep at night knowing you spew such patently dishonest miscegenation propaganda?

        Let me guess, the nose knows.

      • Julian

        He’s scared of immigrants stealing his girls. That is his motivation

      • Andre5000

        Served you well ? Worst air pollution on earth, people being arrested for saying the word “democracy”, suicide nets at the major businesses because your work force would rather be dead than live in China… oh yeah. Gotta love that racial homogeny!

      • Andre5000

        Let’s see, average income in my neighborhood is $42 an hour. In China, it is about $3 an hour. So in 10 decades, China’s economy will be…. equal to that of my neighborhood strip mall? I guess that’s the problem with your distinct races.

      • Julian

        “Racism prevents the destruction of one’s race.”

        Protectionist drivel from a serial bigot. The fact is, immigration stimulates competition. In the workplace, in social life, in natural selection. What you’re proposing hinders the progress of the human race beyond Han-Chinese, Japanese, Aryan, etc.

        From here it looks like you are against immigration for fear of losing out to foreigners you believe are superior to you in certain aspects. If that’s the case then of course it makes perfect sense for you xenophobes to advocate the implementation of policies facilitating socio-economic inequality.

      • Adam

        You sound like a text book. Now here’s some reality for you. Many immigrants from many ethnic groups have no desire to work or educate themselfv. All they want is to receive benefits, live like animals and scream racism and xenophibia at any opportunity they get. That is my experience from living in EU. i can tell you for a fact, immigration is not helping EU at all. Unless you consider an astronomical incerase of rapes, muggings, even murders all over EU done by immigrants from the third world as a positive thing.

      • Michael Washington

        Yes, especially when the nation has a very low birth rate and almost half of the Japanese nationals are senior citizens.

      • http://www.ahawkins.name Andrew Hawkins

        History shows that the tribalism you espouse leads to a near-constant state of warfare and exploitation. One of the major reasons that the period of time we live in is relatively the most tranquil is because we have established minimum levels of human dignity. You’re also guilty of the is-ought fallacy.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Assuming that conflict between races is a negative thing, the assertion is still Incorrect.

        Western history shows that tribalism in white nations leads to near-constant states of warfare. In the last 4,000 years of East Asian history, our ethnic chauvinism has led to less than 5 wars between ethnostates. And even if was as violent, it would still not justify allowing one’s own ethnosphere to be contaminated by another.

      • lordblazer

        so we just ignore that near 1,000 yr warring states period that China had??? and then ignore 19th and 20th century history of asia? much less ignore the other wars that have occurred within asia for thousands of years.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Most of which are internal wars between different political factions of Han Chinese, and thus has nothing to do with our ethnocentrism.

        Even counting both Sino-Japanese wars as 2 conflicts, the statement stands. Inter-ethnic warfare is rare in East Asia, despite our much feared nationalisms.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        969… Bodu Bala Sena

      • Master of Unlocking

        So how does this neat little theory of yours explain why the Han, a group supposedly unified by racial identity and therefore supposedly less prone to conflict, have waged so many wars with each other?

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        I didn’t say the Han was less prone to conflict, I said homogeneous societies are less prone to conflict between races by virtue of there not being other races within the society.

        But let me humor your strawman. The Han today, like all humans, are less likely to war between ourselves now that we know there are greater differences to unite against.

      • Master of Unlocking

        Implying that civil wars are less violent than interstate wars. If anything they are often more violent, so being a homogeneous society really confers no advantage.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        Buddhism comes from India and conquered all of Asia without having to kill anyone…

        This is why the Marxists and Maoists invaded Mongolia after WW2 and murdered all of the Buddhist monks and desecrated the monasteries.

        All roads lead to Shaolin.

      • Andre5000

        I can name more wars than that in a single decade in East Asia. Nice try though!

      • kuma chan

        the world is a global place now where everything is integerated. With our limited resources only love and compassion are the only sources we are left with to save the human race. when we die we are neither chinese, japanese or anything but just dead meat, so please think positively and try to tancend these racial bigotry and be a part for the common cause of saving humanity

      • Andre5000

        I am. That’s why I wasn’t a part of the last 6,000 wars that gripped all of Asia and killed millions.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        The period of time we live in is relatively the most tranquil?

        You’re an idiot… the hijab wearing douche bags are going nuts…

      • PS

        You want people to stay where they are and not emigrate, but you call yourself “The Invader”? That make no sense. So you want to invade other peoples places, but since you see yourself better than anybody else, then they should just shut up and take it. And why are you calling yourself Terry? Stick to your chinese name, and be true to your “chinese self”, why use a foreign name, which you hate? And remember not to complain when people throws racial slurs or prejudice comments at you. Because you know don’t “assume that racism is a bad thing”, cause you know, they just didn’t like your face.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        This is standard white guy defense when backed into a corner about diversity.

        Canada is a nicer place to live. It is liebensraum for Chinese people, thus our immigration serves our own ethnic interests. It’s in my interest to complain about being victimized by racism, but also in my interest to prevent others from doing the same against Chinese interests. Hypocrisy is the intent.

      • Master of Unlocking

        Yes, basically, pure self-interest, with not a trace of conventional morality, such as “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. Clinical psychopaths share that characteristic as well.

        You seem pretty smug, not realizing that you’re only shooting yourself in the foot. If you’re trolling, you just look stupid. If you’re actually serious, then you’re casting a bad light on Chinese people. Either way, you’re hardly “serving China’s interests” as you fondly believe you are. But keep it up. You serve my interests by doing this.

        And you’re right, Canada is a nicer place to live than China. China is pretty terrible, isn’t it?

        You do realize, that considering everything you just said, the proper response would be for Canada to block Chinese immigration as a threat to them and expel Chinese living in Canada. I wonder how you’d react to that, though? LOL.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Despite what you think, I, and others like me, are normal people with feelings just like any other. “Sociopath” would be the more correct term, and I’m not sure that’s a bad thing given the alternative.

        I am rather surprised that Canada does not block Chinese immigration in the first place. Their loss… our gain.

        Strangely enough, this is the same thing other Chinese nationalists say. “You’re making China look bad!”

        I’m long over that. The reason why the right loses ground in the West against the left is because they’re afraid of looking bad. At this point, defeating equality is much more important that appearing kind.

      • Brian Martin

        “The reason why the right loses ground in the West against the left is because they’re afraid of looking bad.”

        Glenn Beck, Serah Palin,Bill O’reilly. Trust me they look bad and majority of the USA thinks so.

      • Master of Unlocking

        Believe what you want. Like I said, you serve my interests.

        Canada does not block Chinese immigration because they are a civilized country. And if you seriously think that you Han can take control of Canada through immigration alone, you are quite deluded.

        Do other Chinese nationalists really tell you that? Why don’t you follow them? Do you think you know better than they do?

      • zh

        “Their loss… our gain.”

        That is the most selfish statement from a member of a modern society I have ever read so far in my entire life.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ Winston Blake

        桜会

      • PS

        another… word.

      • Aktap

        Sick minded troll.

      • warota

        I agree with you but I was wondering if you know which treaties would be involved with this? I’d like to take a look.

        Also, based on what I’ve read, in the case of non-citizens, welfare benefits are given out per resident (世帯) where the head of the household (世帯主) is a non-citizen. This ruling therefore doesn’t affect residences where the declared head of the household is a Japanese. If this speculation is correct, then so long as the head of the household is a Japanese citizen, benefits can’t be denied under this ruling.

        What this may also mean is that this could put non-citizen male / Japanese female residences at a disadvantage compared to Japanese male / non-citizen female residences.

      • TheLeprechaun

        If, as you say, you have a Japanese wife and plan to stay in Japan, why don’t you take Japanese citizenship and beat them at their own game?

      • muhdik

        The taxpayers should become full-fledged citizens if they want Japanese benefits.

      • Ed

        She knew the rules ahead of time. Her choice.

      • Perry Constantine

        So you’re saying I should be excluded from the system that I actively pay into with my taxes? It’s flat-out exploitation to require foreigners to pay taxes but then refuse to allow them to claim the benefits they should be entitled to.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Yes. Was that not clear before? Why are you entitled to benefits just because you pay taxes?

      • Koen Renmans

        Because that is how the system works? Or at least how it is designed to in the West; we all pay taxes so as to support those who are in need, regardless of their ethnicity or status.
        Have to admit I agree with the stance that if you pay taxes like a local, you should be entitled to the very same rights deriving from those taxes.

        That is indeed, and depending on one’s worldview/culture not a universal truth. Good luck trying to make Americans understand they are not the measure of things or the standard of the world.

      • zh

        “Why are you entitled to benefits just because you pay taxes?”

        Yeah, you can’t use this road because you’re not an ethnic. Nope, you can’t even use that public toilet, coz you’re not a local. And you can’t call the police either, even if your life is in danger, coz you’re a foreigner.

        That’s what taxes are for, I believe.

      • PaulR

        Your “pays taxes” arguments makes no sense. I have lived and worked in several Asian and M.E. countries. Of course, I paid taxes there – yet I was not a citizen, and I was not eligible for those countries’ welfare benefits. And why should I be? I was a foreigner. That even applies in the United States, who has the most screwed up immigration system of any country in the world.

      • lordblazer

        yea but in the US people with green cards are eligible for welfare. it is in the same for most countries IMO..

      • https://twitter.com/chanceawilson Chance Wilson

        “That even applies in the United States, who has the most screwed up immigration system of any country in the world.”

        Are you sure about that?

      • PS

        Then all “non-chinese” and “and non-japanese” should not pay taxes. They should be able to buy everything taxfree. That’s only fair.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Being fair is not desirable, that was the point.

      • KidsThatKilledDisco

        Lovely English name you got there Terry lad, too scare to use your birth name or are you afraid us westerners are going to look at it like it was bad hand in Scrabble?

      • Bryan Nguyen

        Don’t know why everyone is complaining. I pay taxes in America… and when I want my social security… i’m not going to get a cent from it. Essentially Japan is doing the same thing but they can still approve it out of “goodwill”. US just won’t have any money to give out.
        Possibility of getting money or getting nothing. Japan and US in a nutshell for benefits

      • jhobson

        Obvious troll is obvious.

      • Sasori

        Well, now, you illustrate perfectly the issue by being a complacent participant. Now, I’m not sure that the person was paying into the social security system all the years of working. But, if so, then it should pay out to the contributor, regardless of status.
        That’s how it is for greencard holders in the US.

    • Sasori

      Well, the words you use to describe the locals lack the content to adequately describe the, lets say, common sentiment here”. Even the ‘Z’ word really doesn’t cut it. The subject is too complex for a few words.

      Also, as a comparison, California and Texas take advantage of the same things you complain about, while claiming they want to stamp out and block illegal-immigration from Mexico. Some illegals use ripped SSNs to gain W2 work. They eventually get caught, but have contributed to the system through the standard deductions pulled from their paycheck.

  • Roy Warner

    In Japan it’s still 1867, apparently, 尊皇攘夷。

  • qqrrsstt

    Ahh…all the deodorant-less “English teachers” (ahh, good morning Sensei) are out in force here at the “Japan Times”, with their butter-balls of wisdom (yes, that means you, Mr. Butter-kusai).

    In any case, GOOD for tiny Japan. To take just the huge U.S. as a warning, it has already been flooded (and will eventually and inevitably “Transformed” … just ask Obama), by not just millions, but TENS of millions of Illegals. Who will be given everything for free (see: the U.S. taxpayer): medical care, temporary housing followed by publicly-subsidized housing, food via SNAP, not to mention in-state college tuition.

    The U.S. has a population of roughly 320 million, with anywhere from “only 8 million Illegals!” (if you believe the commie-lefty “Open Borders” liers), to somewhere around 25-30 million (if you believe those who insist the commie-lefties are pushing deliberately false “low-ball” figures).

    Meaning that something like 5% of the U.S. population is composed of Illegals (if not 10%). And the Illegals are concentrated in the southwest and western cities (see Phoenix, see L.A.), as well as the old northeast urban centers (see N.Y.C.), which intensifies their detrimental impact due to concentration in a few specific cities). No way Japan could survive anything similar, and so Japan is taking steps to get its house in order.

    And we haven’t even touched on other examples such as the Muslim rapes and riots in Stockholm.

    Japan should look at the U.S. specifically, and perhaps Europe in general, and take “the West” as…one big, huge NEGATIVE example. If “the West” says, DO IT! — then the best and safest option is almost certainly to do the OPPOSITE.

    As for “Red-Army” college professors in Japan talking about “Japan will be the subject of global ridicule”:

    1. The U.S. is the commiest-leftiest it’s ever been, open borders and free food for all, and the U.S. is thereby … the subject of global PRAISE? The only ones praising Obama are Putin and China, because they both know Obama’s policies will lead to the near-collapse of the U.S. as a world anything, which will be of tremendous benefit for them (nominally communist though they may be; they’re NATIONALIST first and foremost).

    2. If Japan manages to keep itself from sinking while the “Transformed U.S.” and “Social-Democrat Europe” all implode, the subjects of “global ridicule” and scorn … will NOT be Japan, that’s for sure.
    ________________________________

    • j b

      Butter-Kusai? Awesome insult; must say though that I have smelled some viciously bad breath on Japanese folks. That aside, your rant against America is amusing, but in the long run, the US is much more likely to survive hard times than a small island country. Turning the nuclear plants back on seems a signal that tightening the belt isn’t enough to ease Japan’s energy crunch. All the other “commie” stuff is just hog wash. America’s not communist, it’s capitalist (not that that’s necessarily better).

    • JoeyJapan

      This article is about “legal citizens” being discriminated against. Not illegals.

      Your arguments have no merit because they don’t address that issue.

      • Gordon Graham

        Not citizens, Joey…foreigners. And not being discriminated against but not having the same benefits of citizens who have a greater responsibility than foreigners.

    • doninjapan

      You moron. “Permanent residents” are not “illegals”.

    • sanda

      LOL. Being able to write and read some English does not make you smarter! a clear example right here!
      And remember, Japanese economy relies only on US economy.!!

    • James Smith

      2. If Japan manages to keep itself from sinking while the “Transformed U.S.” and “Social-Democrat Europe” all implode, the subjects of “global ridicule” and scorn … will NOT be Japan, that’s for sure.

      Yes, if the US and Europe implode and, as you suggest, we welcome Putin and China as our new overlords – then the future for Japan will be rosy indeed.

  • CLJF

    @qqrrsstt:disqus, you are comparing apples and oranges. Foreigners with PR status, not to mention other long-term residents and those here on 3 and 5 year visas are all in Japan legally, pay taxes and contribute to the pension system. That they should not be able to receive benefits from the social security system they are paying into is discriminatory, inequitable and just plain wrong. Once again, the Japanese government is showing its racist colours.
    Shame, Japan, shame.

    • qqrrsstt

      Nobody, least of all the Supreme Court of Japan and for that matter most of the Japanese populace, cares what you think. Thank God for small favors. But you can be a Big Girl on the Japan Times, influencing millions. Enjoy your time in the limelight. Will you be going back to Edinburgh or Liverpool soon?

      • midnightbrewer

        Nobody cares what you think, either, and yet here you are.

      • lordblazer

        Wow you seriously had nothing to contribute there buddy.

  • CLJF

    @qqrrsstt, no, since I don’t come from there, but don’t let that stop you from continuing to making stupid, baseless assumptions.

  • Vixzer

    Foreigners, stop going to live and work in Japan, lets see what happens then, for those who legally live, work and contribute with Japan but is now officialy without any Welfare benefit, I would think really hard if it is still worth staying and, if not, just go back to your country and find another country more fair, with justice and that will really give you the value you deserve…

    If people stop going to Japan, lets see how long will Japan still like that ;-)

  • Kwame Alexander

    Fine with me. Return the eleven years of taxes that I’ve paid, and we’ll call it even.

    • Gordon Graham

      Return the eleven years you lived in Japan and then you’ll be even.

      • Myu tube

        He lived here legally on a visa, he was paid for the WORK he did. Why don’t we deserve the benefits we pay the taxes for? Don’t you see clear discrimination in the ruling?

      • Gordon Graham

        He received the benefit of working and living in a nation that facilitated his life for the past 11 years. If he were to make the full commitment of becoming a citizen then he would enjoy the benefits of a citizen. However, those benefits come with responsibility. It seems he is not willing to commit to those responsibilities.

      • Myu tube

        Why should he leave the citizenship of his country? He is a permanent resident, that means the Japanese government finds him contributing to the country in some way. It’s a two way thing, he is not a slave here.

      • Gordon Graham

        Yes, that’s true. He’s free to leave anytime he likes. However, he remains here of his own accord as Japan has facilitated the opportunity for him to make a decent living and reside in a safe and comfortable nation. For that he is required to pay a levy to the Japanese who have built and maintain this nation. If he becomes destitute then he becomes the responsibility of his native country. If he wishes Japan to be responsible for him then he should take on the responsibility of a citizen. He’s not a slave, he’s free to choose.

      • Myu tube

        Hmm that makes some sense.

      • Kwame Alexander

        I see, so because I’m not willing to get Japanese citizenship, I should be forced to pay into a system that doesn’t benefit me. Of course, this is because I am being done the favour of being allowed to provide technical and educational services that the local population are incapable of providing.

        Yep. Makes sense to me!

      • Gordon Graham

        You reap the benefits of living in a society with a highly advanced infrastructure that facilitates your daily life a police force that protects you an educated populace that makes this the kind of country you have chosen to live in. Trust me, Kwame, if you weren’t here there would be someone else to do your job. You need Japan far more than it needs you. Your taxes are a levy for the privilege of living and working in this nation that you will continue to live in in spite of your bellyaching. Why? Because it’s a good country and taxes help to make it so. You want to reap the benefits of a citizen? Fill out the forms.

  • Ashley

    I watched a great BBC documentary on how Japan won’t be able to support itself in the future due to the fact that a) not enough Japanese babies are being born to support the ageing population. Japan is going to implode in on itself if they don’t get more babies born to support the elderly. Immigration is the only way to resolve this coming issue. However the fact that they now want immigrants to pay into the system for life and receive nothing back will stop a lot of people coming to Japan / staying in Japan and while the right wingers will love this law now.. in the end its only bad for Japan. The clock is ticking..good luck with that one, you’re going to need it.

    • Gordon Graham

      How’s that ever increasing population plan gonna look 200 years from now?

      • James Smith

        Who said ever increasing? It’s about retaining a sustainable population.

      • Gordon Graham

        That’s a hopeful idea. However, the world’s population IS increasing…exponentially and to the tipping point where it will no longer be sustainable. I’m sorry, but reality is coming as sure as a mudslide in Kyushu during typhoon season and far more lethal. What’s needed is a new economic model or it’s gonna be wipe ‘em out and start again…If you don’t think so you’re not paying close enough attention.

      • doninjapan

        You’re the one not paying attention GeeGee. The world’s increasing population is fact, but so is Japan’s DECREASING population. As far as *impact* goes, the second’s going to happen faster.

      • Gordon Graham

        And will prove a benefit once the older generation dies out.

      • Steve Jackman

        Gordon, this may be asking too much of you, but can you focus on the matter at hand, which is the Supreme Court ruling. What do your comments about the increase in the global population have to do with this ruling?

      • Gordon Graham

        That was in response to the tick tock tick tock warning that usually follows these kinds of articles…

      • lordblazer

        actually the birthrate will reach 0 by 2050. Which means the same amount of people born will be the same amount of people dying. oh also it will be slated to decline quite soon too.

      • Gordon Graham

        Interesting how after a war when a population has been decimated the growth and prosperity of a nation is most discernable

      • muhdik

        I’m afraid you don’t know African birth rates very well.

    • Terry “The Invader” Xu

      The right wingers are right, as usual. The solution to a declining population is what, replace your own ethnic group with others? Mix them into something unrecognizable from your previous ethnic identity?

      It’s like saying you can cure an illness by committing suicide.

      • lordblazer

        Japanese did mix with the Ainu and Okinawans.

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        Which is quite the pity.

      • KidsThatKilledDisco

        I mixed with your Mum

      • KidsThatKilledDisco

        She good

      • PS

        Remeber to DNA test your future girlfriends if you’ll have any. Cause you know, don’t want some crazy mixed blood! And as I stated earlier, you porbably tested your DNA as well to be 100% sure that you are han chinese or whatever…

      • Terry “The Invader” Xu

        That would be meaningless. Han Chinese is a consensus identity based only loosely on genetic proximity. My wife already passes the consensus.

      • Jameika

        That only makes any sense if you believe that ethnic identities, cultures, and societies are static and never change.

        There is no place like that on earth and believing that an ethnic identity is one, single thing that needs to be ‘protected’ from something is short-sighted and detrimental to any society.

      • muhdik

        Why is it detrimental? Destroying one’s identity, ethnicity, and culture seems terribly short-sided to me.

      • Jameika

        I’ll ignore the presumption that including other people into your group (culture, ethnicity, whatever) is “destroying one’s identity” since that’s how cultures are created and that’s how they change over time.

        It’s detrimental to any group to draw an arbitrary line and, thereby, create an underclass in a society.

        I was reacting to the comment “Mix them into something unrecognizable from your previous ethnic identity?” since cultures and ethnicities are constantly changing.

        In Japan’s case specifically the different waves of people who populated these islands over thousands of years are what created it in the first place. Now we are supposed to accept an arbitrary line drawn using citizenship (a relatively new concept and one over which–at least in this country–people have little control) to determine whether a person is contributing to society or not? That’s shortsighted.

        We have seen over and over again that disadvantaging a category of people and/or giving advantage to an arbitrary group of others creates inequality, which creates unrest and frustration, and also leads to poverty which is directly correlated to crime. I’d call that a detriment.

      • muhdik

        These waves of new people were ethnically similar to the people they were joining in Japan. Just like the Germanic peoples that crossed into the British Isles. Today, however, we have mass immigration of Africans and Arabs into countries that drastically differ genetically speaking. Yes you would be mixing and destroying an ethnicity and culture and molding it into something of a cultureless abomination with no identity and shared sense of values.

      • Jameika

        I’ll ignore the presumption that including other people into your group (culture, ethnicity, whatever) is “destroying one’s identity” since that’s how cultures are created and that’s how they change over time.

        It’s detrimental to any group to draw an arbitrary line and, thereby, create an underclass in a society.

        I was reacting to the comment “Mix them into something unrecognizable from your previous ethnic identity?” since cultures and ethnicities are constantly changing.

        In Japan’s case specifically the different waves of people who populated these islands over thousands of years are what created it in the first place. Now we are supposed to accept an arbitrary line drawn using citizenship (a relatively new concept and one over which–at least in this country–people have little control) to determine whether a person is contributing to society or not? That’s shortsighted.

        We have seen over and over again that disadvantaging a category of people and/or giving advantage to an arbitrary group of others creates inequality, which creates unrest and frustration, and also leads to poverty which is directly correlated to crime. I’d call that a detriment.

    • PaulR

      You need not worry. Japan, as a distinct culture and nation, will be around long after the USA and UK have disappeared.

      • muhdik

        Sadly you are quite correct.

    • lordblazer

      they will be a nation of robots (I mean they’re there already but they’re going to use actual robots and the few humans born in the future will be the new upper class while the robots are the slave class). future japan is gonna be awesome. then the robot wars will come and humans will become the slave class in japan.

      • muhdik

        This.

  • doninjapan

    What the f**k am I paying the same taxes for then???

    • Gordon Graham

      To live and work here. You use the roads, I assume. You benefit from the security the police provide. You also benefit greatly from living in an educated society. You have the potential to join that society if you keep out of trouble, learn the language and prove you can be a good citizen.

      • doninjapan

        Errr… you make a lot of assumptions there (tho’ looking at your other comments, you appear to be merely here to troll).
        So your assertion is that MY taxes shouldn’t garner me as much a benefit as a *native Japanese*.
        How very enlightened of you (maybe you could learn to apply the *great benefit of living in an EDUCATED society*).

      • Gordon Graham

        My assertion is that you entered this country by an agreement you made with the State…an agreement that had the stipulation that you would have either a source of income or enough funds to sustain yourself. That is what YOU agreed to. If you continue to live and work here then it’s likely that it’s to your benefit.

      • doninjapan

        I guess I should have heeded Manfred Baur’s suggestion, and not fed the trolls.

      • Gordon Graham

        Or perhaps honour your agreement.

      • doninjapan

        Don’t you have a bridge to attend to?

      • lordblazer

        they’re speaking on people with permanent resident status. IE: green card. It’s a bit different from what you are talking about because people with PR status have a real stake in the country of residence’s future. So that means there is no incentive to become a contributing member of that society if they do not reap the benefits of what they’re paying into.

        we are not talking about people with working visas that limit their professions. We are talking about people who can fully participate in every aspect of japanese society, go to college without a student visa, switch industries without changing visas, etc etc. when you have PR status there are some rules, but generally you have no limit on where you work or where you study. It is a bit different from student and work visas. therefore, what you are saying does not apply to this lot.

      • Gordon Graham

        Make the full commitment reap the full benefits and take on the full responsibility of a citizen and there is no issue.

      • lordblazer

        you’re being paid to write these comments.

  • Manfred Baur

    Regarding comments of qqrrsstt and the likes.

    Do not reply to Trolls, they try to pull you down to their low level and if they have you their they will beat you with their superior experience

  • wada

    外国籍のまま老人になるまで日本で働き、老後も日本で過ごすことを希望する外国人にとっては大問題ですね。生活保護のみならず、年金制度の見直しも必要でしょう。次は外国人労働者の社会保険料について記事を書いてくれると、この問題への理解が深まるので助かります。税金の不公平についての不満も多いようなので、社会保障協定と脱退一時金制度などの話題が有益ではないでしょうか。

  • Andy Klyen

    So if I accept Japanese citizenship I do qualify? If I want to keep my own nationality then I don’t? Is that the case?

    • Gordon Graham

      Yes

    • wada

      It depend to financial ability.

    • Michelle Martinie

      For questions like that, definitely ask a lawyer.

  • Gordon Graham

    Judging from the atrocious English skills of the Japanese foreigners are doing very little to improve the welfare of the nation. By the way, there were 37 million tourists last year…Cool

    • James Smith

      Aren’t about 50% of the foreign workers in Japan Chinese? Are they teaching English??

      • Gordon Graham

        Most of the Chinese I know have naturalized. Perhaps Japan should take on the burden of China’s ever increasing unemployment problem?

  • Stephen Kent

    “Foreigners pay taxes,” Tanaka said. “If you pay taxes, you should be eligible for the social security system that you’ve contributed to. That’s a common sense understanding.” – I think that about sums it up. I’ve read some comments saying that because on your permanent residency application it says you must prove that you have the assets or abilities to make an independent living then you are somehow forfeiting your right to receive any benefits from a social insurance system that you are obliged to pay into, but although this obligation may not be strictly enforced, if you can prove that you have paid into the system then I can’t understand what grounds the high court has for ruling foreigners to be ineligible to receive welfare. Since the concept of insurance is a fairly universal one and at no point in the visa application process is it made explicitly clear that you may not be allowed to use a system that you are obliged to pay into, shouldn’t the government be returning as a lumpsum all the social insurance taxes to people who have paid them over the years with a letter of apology for causing a misunderstanding?

    On a more general note, I find it quite saddening that in the year 2014, when human productivity is said to be 400% what it was in the 1960s, people in need of economic support may still be denied it on the grounds of scarcity. To me it represents how little people actually know about the way finance and economics actually work; and the end result in this case is a relatively powerless minority being treated unfairly.

    • Firas Kraïem

      “I can’t understand what grounds the high court has for ruling foreigners to be ineligible to receive welfare.”

      Sadly, it’s very simple: because the law says so.

      • Stephen Kent

        It surely can’t state it very clearly though if it’s taken a high court decision to overrule a district court? And if the law did clearly express the intention to discriminate against non-nationals who are legally resident in the country and paying taxes, wouldn’t that breach some of the international conventions to which Japan is party? I’m no expert, but if it had always been a clear-cut case of openly taxing people and then denying them any benefits, wouldn’t governments be issuing warnings to citizens thinking of settling in Japan?

  • Gordon Graham

    Or maybe they could put away all that cash they make on the side that they don’t pay taxes on.

  • Juan Bracich

    This will not help Japan’s labor shortage in the long run. Its half-backed xenophobic immigration system is already denying the nation a labor pool of workers for jobs that need filling that the locals do not want to do. How many more Japanese business stories are we going to hear that had to scale back because of lack of workers, like what is happening for example at many retailers?

    • Zach Smith

      That makes no sense. Having more people in the country taking welfare benefits would be counterproductive. It would consume part of the productivity of the workers they do have.

      • lordblazer

        Zach please explain that?

        having more legal immigrants come in and pay taxes increases your tax pool. now you have to assume every single individual is using welfare at the exact same time to prove your point. In no universe does this actually occur. How does it consume productivity. No one is coming to Japan to be high on the hog on welfare.

      • muhdik

        Who are Africans for 200, Alex.

  • Gordon Graham

    25 years and you haven’t become a citizen? I guess you haven’t really “given your life” but took what you could get

    • lordblazer

      no one is obligated to become a citizen of the country they live in. wake up and join the 21st century. the nation-state system is a thing of the past soon.

      • Gordon Graham

        The State is not obligated to provide welfare to non-citizens. I just read it. Don’t like it? Coddle yourself with 21st Century wishful thinking.

  • Myu tube

    I see a lot of great comments on this article. Too bad the average Japanese won’t ever read them.

  • Andy Klyen

    There is no point arguing with Terry the invader.. He is just a troll.. Bottom line is – if you have the long term right to remain in Japan and you pay taxes then all benefits should apply. They don’t – so that’s that. Japan will pay in the longer term. Cracks are already appearing. In the end Japan will change to survive. I guess we are just not at that critical juncture yet.. People who resist this change will make it more traumatic for Japan. Remember, we live in a country where 1960′s culture is alive and well…some of the comments below express this admirably.

  • itoshima2012

    It’s a difficult issue. I’m of the opinion that it is right not to give social welfare benefits to any resident in japan. The best would be to tie social welfare to a contribution based system like the pension system in japan. That would be fair, let’s say get. Certain amount of social benefits credited for every 5 years you paid into the system. That would make it fair and transparent. I mean, honestly speaking to pay to all permanent residents in japan welfare benefits is not feasible

  • 78700

    Egocentrism and sense of entitlement much? “What will Japan become without me?”

  • Dan K

    Come on Japan join the gravy train party! We have 300,000 Central American illiterate children in the USA now! Have a beer! It don’t cost nothin’

  • 78700

    Japan is a very crowded archipelago like the Philippines or Indonesia, with limited natural resources.

    Old people aren’t high-maintenance unlike many of you spoiled brats, and high-value exports can more than cover their food imports, just like the same exports have until now covered the cost of oil and gas needed in Tokyo.

  • Jezza

    Does anyone have a link to this in Japanese? I can’t seem to find anything..

  • Brendan

    After reading this I felt “Could there be a greater example or utter selfishness? Of a completely despicable (and inherently racist) disregard for the humanity of those different to you?” and then I read Terry “The Invader” Xu’s comments and I realized, “There’s always worse if you go looking for it”.

    Japan, I like you a lot. Please try to give me more good reasons to stay and fewer really good reasons to go.

  • GIJ

    Japan formally regained its sovereignty 62 years ago and its politicians could have amended the constitution or passed some laws at any time after 1952 to clarify the situation for non-citizen residents in Japan, but for some reason they chose not to do so. Are the Americans responsible for that inaction as well?

    • Earl Kinmonth

      To a degree, yes. The American government is fully capable of forcing the Japanese to accept policies whether they like them or not. The Status of Forces Agreement gives Americans affiliated with US military bases all sorts of 19th century colonial rights in Japan including virtual exemption from criminal prosecution. If something like welfare rights had been important to American nationals in Japan, you can bet the US government would have pushed Japan on this.

  • Adam

    If you are a US citizen, can you get US benefits while living in Japan? Just curious.

    Also, I do not think it’s really possible to become a Japanese citizen, for those who have asked. They base citizenship on blood lineage.

    • Gordon Graham

      wrong

  • Katie

    Japanese government needs it’s foreign residents as much as the foreign residents need backing from the government. It shouldn’t be a quarrelsome situation. Japan needs these highly skilled foreigners or else they wouldn’t have hired them. Please treat us well and do not abuse us. Make us want to live here or we will just go back home.

  • Gordon Graham

    From the 20 or so I’ve known about 10 have become Japanese. WTF? Were you in prison?

  • Michael Bayne

    I’m appalled to see that an ignorant, deluded fascist and racist like Mr. Xu is living within my country’s borders. Hopefully, this will be corrected either by those directly exposed to his odiousness within Canada or by the winds of fate.

    • muhdik

      :^)

  • Michael Bayne

    And before you mindlessly call me a white “liberal”, consider that the Conservative party of Canada–most members of whom would find your logic disgusting–actively courts East Asian, South Asian, and South East Asian voters because they share core values such as reasonable taxation and smaller government. The fact is that your “tribal” mentality is backward and only encourages violent conflict and cruel oppression. That is hardly civilized.

  • Michael Bayne

    You are also wrong in your assertion that only white western people would think like this. Many countries in Latin America are multi-racial and multi-cultural (e.g., Mexico and Brazil). Peru even had a president, albeit a corrupt one, who was not a member of the racial majority. Looking within Asia, Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore are also multi-racial and multi-cultural. Thailand, for example, may have its faults (as all nations do), but it has a proud history and a kind, friendly, hard-working, and compassionate populace. That nation has also had leaders outside of the racial majority. But, then, I wouldn’t exactly be shocked to learn that you don’t interact much with people outside of a very few select ethnic groups (even within your own country).

    • muhdik

      Yeah their faults include massive amounts of violence and numerous civil conflicts between the different tribes vying for power.

      • Michael Bayne

        Your comment is not specific enough. Violence has many root causes. Oppression is one. I do not condone tribalism. It does not lead to a just society.

  • WhistlingDog

    This is only going to hurt Japan more than the foreigners.
    So I guess I should continue to work and pay taxes and receive no benefits or assistance when I’m down and just because I’m a foreigner???….NO THANK YOU, JAPAN…Sheesh the world we live in……..Now I’m seeing how they truly feel…

    • 78700

      I don’t know if you noticed, but there is a welfare crisis in the developed world.

      • WhistlingDog

        This is true, especially here in the grand ol U.S., but this is a different situation.Where foreign (taxpayers) are being discriminated against from getting governmental assistant.While developed countries like the U.S. has nothing but lazy leeches and handouts to illegals who don’t pay taxes.

  • 78700

    “Japan’s tax revenue rose to its highest level in six years in the year ended in March, as a weaker yen and higher share prices buoyed corporate earnings and capital gains, the Ministry of Finance said Thursday.” – The WSJ, July 2014

    • warota

      OK, and? This won’t be significant in the long run and these figures were tallied before the new increased consumption tax was put into place. We’ll start seeing the decreases in taxes as the manufactured excitement over Abenomics in combination with the tax increase in the next report. Interest payments on the debt will hardly be scratched let alone all of the other things that need to be paid for (Fukushima clean up, Olympic construction etc.).

      In the meantime, as quoted above:

      “Annual elder care costs will more than double by 2026, to 19.8 trillion yen ($212 billion), from March 2013, the health ministry estimates. This rise in spending threatens to overload the country with the world’s highest debt load as a percentage of GDP.”

  • 78700

    Annual elder care costs are exaggerated in developed countries.

    • warota

      Alright, do you have a source for that?

  • 78700

    Reuters posted a few days ago an article about Japan’s labor market. According to the agency, there is full employment and salaries are high, so billionaires, hedge funds, executives and shareholders are unhappy. Spoiled brats want more immigration to “fix” this “problem”. Otherwise how will they afford a new Ferrari this year?

    • warota

      They salaries are getting higher in a few job markets which usually involve manual labor. Everyone here wants white collar jobs and those are in short supply here.

      This means, wages are being depressed for the cushy jobs as everyone is flocking to them (higher status, stay inside and goof off) while the manual labor jobs have no choice but to compete on the free market for limited applicants to their crummy / dirty / dangerous jobs by raising salaries and this is why businesses are crying boohoo. Immigration is actually being pushed by the manual labor-based businesses so they can have fresh blood to exploit since willing locals are increasingly in short supply.

  • awfulorv

    Congratulations, Someone has come to their senses. Now if the US would do the same…

    • 78700

      Exactly, the silent majority in Western Europe and North America has had enough of these arrogant little twits called “migrants”.

  • 78700

    Employees of multinational crime syndicates, Mexican baby mamas and Nigerian thugs, go home.

  • 78700

  • Chase Suðrland

    I can hear the delicious screams from leftists all around the world. So awesome.

  • Ed

    I love Japan. When I visited there 4 years ago it was clean and well run. I had a blast. Safety & security were not even on my mind.

    • muhdik

      I believe the lack of African and Middle Eastern immigrants had something to do with that.

  • nwlife76

    I can understand the ruling but now Japan must come up with a tax code that gives foreign workers a discount or allows a portion of their tax money to be set aside for them if they need to seek aid in the future!

    • muhdik

      How about become a Japanese citizen?

  • italian guy

    Good for you my Japanese friends! keep your country Japanese, don’t listen to the anti-Whites in the West, they are trying to destroy us and want the same fate for you too.
    Stay strong.

    • muhdik

      Exactly! Do not commit suicide as a nation just because delusional westerners can’t see the folly of their own actions.

  • Paul Johnny Lynn

    Starve the troll.

  • Conrad Brean

    Permanent so long as you don’t need help.
    So what happens to those hard working foreigners who faithfully pay into the tax system. The government deems their money good enough to take but at the same time, decides that they aren’t eligible to receive welfare benefit if hard times ensue.

    • http://Qhub.com/ Robert Millar

      Exactly, Conrad. If I’m going to continue to pay into Japan’s pension plan (nenkin) then I damn well expect to have a pension at the end of it!

      • Gordon Graham

        And if not, I’m damn well gonna…well…nothing

      • http://Qhub.com/ Robert Millar

        I’m damn well gonna…well…stop paying. Oh wait, I already did that.

      • Gordon Graham

        Then you’ve nothing to mewl about

  • GBR48

    However unfair, discriminatory, racist and xenophobic this law obviously is (you pay taxes, you get zip back), it is a little naive of anyone who has spent time in Japan to think that this wasn’t a likely outcome.

    Japan is a democracy, and even if democracies are only nominally or superficially representative of the views of their electorate, it is wrong to assume that it somehow magically follows that a nation, having embraced democracy, will embrace economic fairness or sexual equality. Hitler’s rise to power is largely a history of clever electioneering within a democratic framework, and look what happened there.

    Whilst some might think they see the remnants of an ‘old Japan’, an insular, xenophobic world view, gradually being eroded and replaced by a more ‘modern’ attitude, accepting the codes of political and commercial conduct that are the norm in the West, it’s quite possible that the country may revert to an earlier form with the support of a majority of the electorate.

    The recent survey that showed a preference for women staying at home and men bringing in the wage was an interesting example, albeit from a rather small survey that didn’t necessarily ask the right questions.

    Japan may have become as ‘Western’ as it will ever be during the 80s consumer boom. Now, with South Korea and China overhauling it in tech terms, and Apple resurgent in the US, as a nation, Japan may simply want to lick its wounds and return to the comfortable nostalgia of a state insulated from everywhere else, doing its own thing in its own way. Nostalgia is an easy sell.

    I doubt it would ever have opened up to immigration in the way that other nations have. It has looked at those nations, seen multiculturalism change them through immigration, and decided that it simply doesn’t want to change. Not that much and not in that way.

    It will permit holidaymakers, bringing in revenue. It will do business with the outside world, and it will allow foreigners to stay for longer periods of time, if it needs them to fill posts it cannot otherwise fill, as long as they are willing to leave when they have finished, or are (in this case) rich enough to entirely support themselves.

    But it doesn’t really want you to get your feet under the table, integrate or take root. You can pay rent or buy a house, but don’t make yourself feel too much at home.

    This attitude has a bad reputation historically for what has been seen as its logical conclusion, courtesy of ethnic cleansing in Europe and eugenicists in Klan-rich and racially-riven early 20thC America. But most Western countries are now clamping down on immigration. Their politicians are feeling the heat from electorates who are feeling the economic squeeze and (in part) blaming immigrants. In a world where almost anywhere is less than a day away, the prospect of vast numbers of people who live in countries suffering poverty, hunger or violence, simply upping sticks and moving to somewhere nicer, is worrying people. America has an army of armed officers patrolling their southern border, supported by the latest technology. The Japanese perspective on this may simply be that the West wasn’t Japanese enough, and is now having to backtrack.

    Most Westerners who are drawn to Japan appreciate the things that make it different. I’m guessing many Japanese people feel the same way about their homeland, and simply regard the monolingual, monocultural lack of diversity to be a desirable and comforting status-quo. Or perhaps the Japanese people would like to see some changes to their society imported from abroad? Maybe someone could institute a genuinely widescale survey of the Japanese people, asking them exactly how they would like their country to change in future decades. Would they be comfortable with more foreigners settling? Do they want to travel abroad? Do they want more English lessons in their schools, or would they prefer to return to a more insular state? Holding the Beijing Olympics didn’t exactly Westernise China, so there is no reason to blithely assume that 2020 will make any lasting difference to Japan, unless the people and government of Japan want it to.

    The internet is opening up Japan and its culture to the world, and the world to the Japanese people, more so than at any other time since Commodore Perry. It would be a good time to find out what the first generations of Japanese residents of the global village feel about their place in the scheme of things, and how different generations wish to see their country develop.

    Politicians won’t really care about the answers to that (unless they can use them to support their policies), they will simply do what they want, as they do all over the world. It would however be a fascinating exercise, allowing the people of Japan to discover what their fellow citizens want for the future of their country. Using the internet, everyone who wanted to, could take part, and schools and colleges could ask all of their students to join in.

    As for the issue of ‘taxation without beneficiation’. However angry people might be, I doubt anyone is actually surprised by it. You aren’t in Kansas any more.

  • MarxistMangler

    Very good news. The Japanese are smart to avoid ending up like the West, which has attracted hordes of welfare parasites.

    • http://Qhub.com/ Robert Millar

      Parasites don’t pay taxes for decades.

      • muhdik

        you’re wrong they pay their fair share in sales taxes :^)

  • muhdik

    Iraq? Lebanon?

  • muhdik

    international law is a social construct…nothing more

  • Gordon Graham

    That’s not what the Japan Times reported this past week.

  • http://Qhub.com/ Robert Millar

    What exactly does “social welfare” refer to in this case?

    Do the courts mean to say that after paying into the nenkin (aged pension) system for years, foreigners should now forget about their pensions? Does it mean that after paying into the shakai hoken (social insurance) system for years, foreigners should now forget about unemployment benefits?

    If either of these is the case, then this is simply exploitation of the foreign work force which Japan now needs so badly to fund it’s aging population.

    I predict that the UN will step in here and point out the clear rights violations inherent in this decision.

    • http://Qhub.com/ Robert Millar

      A friend corrected me on another thread : This is about Public Assistance (生活保護), not Nenkin (Pension).

      Still, there are definitely some dark undertones here, and I imagine this ruling will be overturned at some point.

  • Gordon Graham

    Sorry, I got that wrong…”The number of nights foreign visitors spent in hotels is up 27% to 33 million”

  • Ashlea Miyauchi

    This will only be accepted if foreign residents are not required to pay into the pension system. Otherwise, expect a huge backlash.

  • http://Qhub.com/ Robert Millar

    Of course, the solution might simply be for foreign countries to reciprocate in kind. When hordes of old Japanese folk start returning to Japan for a handout (adding to the aging population issue) because they can no longer receive welfare payments abroad, perhaps the Japanese government will reconsider…

    • Gordon Graham

      I’m sure they’d happily trade an unemployed English teacher for an unemployed engineer.

      • Katie

        The majority of PRs are not English teachers.

      • Gordon Graham

        No guff, and the hordes (majority) of old Japanese folk living abroad aren’t on welfare.

  • Michael Bayne

    Generalizing those who disagree as white liberals, as Mr. Xu has done, is simply asinine. One only needs to be aware that the Conservative Party of Canada–most members of whom would find Mr. Xu’s comments morally indecent and disgusting–actively courts East Asians, South East Asian, and South Asians due to their common core values of work ethic, reasonable taxation, and small government.

    • muhdik

      yeah and lower bottom lines…you forgot the most important one lol

  • Michael Bayne

    Moreover, “white” western countries are not the only ones that are multi-cultural and multi-racial. Many Latin American nations (e.g., Mexico and Brazil) and even Asian countries (e.g., Thailand and Malaysia) have a diverse society. Many of them also have had leaders not of the majority (e.g., Peru). The majority of those in Thailand, a country with a proud and rich heritage, would find the highly ethnocentric comments of Mr. Xu to be obnoxious and diametrically opposed to the teachings of the Buddha. Such simple-minded and foolish views expressed by Mr. Xu only engender hatred and violence. These are hardly the ideals of a “civilized” society.

    • muhdik

      Civilized society aka the US has a drastically higher murder rate and serious crime rate than uncivilized Japan. Please don’t be totally stupid.

      • Michael Bayne

        First of all, I am not an American. I am a Canadian. Secondly, I never said that Japan was not civilized. In fact, I did not bash Japan at all.

      • Michael Bayne

        I’m a Canadian, not an American. I also never said anything critical about Japan. I’ve lived here over 10 years and find the country to be quite civilized. Therefore, your comments are based on false assumptions.

  • Peter

    Terry “The Invader” Xu is not even from China. He’s a westerner. You can tell by checking where his posts are from and also via his Facebook page. What an idiot.

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  • WhiteRabbit

    Look at all this anti-whitism. In the 60′s, anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white countries to bring in millions of non-whites.
    Then anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white people to “integrate” or face penalties for being “naziswhowantokill6millionjews.”
    Now anti-whites are praising and counting down the days till ALL and ONLY white children are minorities and extinct EVERYWHERE.
    That makes it white genocide.
    “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.

    • PS

      Take chill pill. Racisim and idiots come in all races and genders… “Anti-racist” is not anti-white… come on.

    • Alex Warhead

      in case you didn’t notice; the case that brought the issue to light involved a chinese man. this has nothing to do with “anti-white” you racist maniac.

      • vonjunk

        Have you been to Japan, Alex? I ask because the typical Japanese hierarchy is to be more racist towards Chinese, Koreans Thais or other Asians, than against Euro-North Americans.

      • Alex Warhead

        i`ve lived in japan off and on for the last 10 years. however, it seems that the original comment that i responded to has been deleted; most likely due to the fact that the commentor is a notorious WAR apologist. his comment was that this move by the japanese govt was directly focused as “anti-white”. unfortunately, there were many other earlier comments that seemed to focus on the effects this ruling will have on the angelo/caucasion foreigner populations instead of the greater impact that it will have on the populace as a whole.

    • The surreal McCoy

      I wonder how you would argue if you were the BrownRabbit. ;-)

      • WhiteRabbit

        Are you saying white genocide is ok?

  • Conrad Brean

    People in this forum are confusing pension with welfare. Welfare is not the same thing. Anyone who contributes to the Japanese national pension plan are eligible for benefits. However, if you get struck down in the course

  • Conrad Brean

    What is going to be interesting is how this upsets the current the reciprocal agreements between countries concerning retirement. More disturbing is the possibility that the pension fund may be included in this disturbing logic. Especially, since the pension fund is called the Japanese National pension fund….

  • Gordon Graham

    The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

  • FunkyB

    “Foreigners pay taxes,” Tanaka said. “If you pay taxes, you should be
    eligible for the social security system that you’ve contributed to.
    That’s a common sense understanding.”
    Just to play the devil’s advocate here, Tokubestu Eijyu-ken holders do not have to pay the full tax rate in some municipalities, and in some cases get special entitlements. They also have the right to vote, so it’s not like they’re completely dis-empowered.

    To repeat: I am only playing the devil’s advocate. Even assuming that there is an underlying issue with taxes vs. entitlements, I think a court ruling is an inappropriate way to address it — going after tax-dodgers and eliminating exemptions would be a better approach.

  • Ocean doctor

    Tax is something you need to pay to use infrastructure of the nation you happened to be in, such as road, traffic signals, police, park, public establishments, city halls and so on. Which is nothing to do with welfare. Go back to your country and ask your own government to provide welfare for you. This ruling is quite natural.

    • vonjunk

      I guess you misunderstand a few things:
      1. Some permanent residents of Japanese are born there and have lived there their whole lives. I know, as my wife is a South Korean citizen, but THIRD generation born and raised in Japan. She’s worked in Japan her whole life. What could happen is that if she has financial trouble she is not entitled and will be denied fair treatment and coverage under Japanese law. She cannot go to South Korea, as she doesn’t speak Korean, isn’t part of society and doesn’t have a SS number for Korea.
      2. If you are long-term or permanent you have lived in Japan a long time. To do so, you would have needed to either A. work there a long time or B. married someone who is Japanese. In both cases, you should be treated like a person from Japan. Again, bad ruling to treat foreigners differently, as the public services will no doubt start to stop all payments to foreigners to see what they can get away with.
      3. To become a Japanese national one has to A. become better at Japanese than most Japanese natives B. pay a lot of money for a lawyer to do a lot of special work to get it done, usually taking 5 years C. drop any other nationality and D. change your name to a proper Japanese name. Not an easy task and it really discourages from anyone attempting it.

      Bad bad bad ruling! It sets a precedent to start squeezing foreign people who have lived and contributed to Japanese society for a long time. It will once more treat people from other countries and even people who are born in Japan to foreign parents and lived in Japan their whole lives like second class in the system. Terrible ruling!

  • OsFish

    The media presentation of this ruling has led to a huge amount of confusion and understandable panic.

    1. This ruling has *nothing* to do with anyone’s pension, or unemployment benefits, or health insurance. Nothing at all. People who are contributing through social insurance retain every right to receive what they are paying for. Social insurance systems typically don’t depend on nationality, they depend on working people paying in. It also has nothing to do with child benefit (kodomo teate) or various other generally universal benefits. I think the word “Welfare” has confused people. It has different meanings in different countries.

    This means that people who protest at how much they are contributing through their shakai hoken etc can relax. The ruling simply has nothing to do with those benefits at all. You will still receive them. It would perhaps not be wise to opt out of social insurance based on the mistaken idea that you are being deprived of those benefits. You are not, and the contirbutions are still obligatory.

    2. This ruling concerns seikatsuhogo: Livelihood protection. This is a social *assistance* benefit. It is for people who have little or no income at all. This will typically be people who have not fully paid into the social insurance system. This is what happens in work-based social insurance systems. You need a supplementary social *assistance* system of means-tested benefits for those who fall through the gaps for various reasons, including an incomplete contributions record (which may be no fault of their own). Not such a great number of people receive this benefit, possibly around 1% (mainly the elderly, disabled, and fatherless families). Seikatsuhogo, like social assistance in many parts of the world, is administered at the municipal level. The awarding of this benefit depends on an assessment of the applicant’s income. As such, applicants may not be successful if they have too much income.

    3. This ruling does *not* stop non-nationals from getting livelihood protection. Although the livelihood protection law is explicitly limited to Japanese citizens, municipalities are actually under instruction through a notice from the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare (issued in 1954 and reconfirmed in 1990) to treat long-term non-Japanese residents precisely the same as Japanese citizens when assessing their needs. According to at least two people’s testimony I know of who work in this area, nothing has changed in that.

    4. What the ruling appears to do is establish that the law itself is not a basis for a non-Japanese to receive these benefits. (Instead, the basis is the notice from the ministry). This produces the paradox that appealing against a denial of livelihood protection cannot be done through argument from the law itself. That is, the rights of non-Japanese to appeal against a rejected application has been curtailed.

    This raises the *possibility* that some municipalities may now choose to be harsher in their assessments, or simply cease providing livelihood protection to some or all categories of non-Japanese, on the understanding that the foreigner will clearly have more limited recourse. However, against that, the instructing notice from the Ministry is still in force.

    So while this ruling is certainly a cause for some serious concern because of the implications for future local government decisions, and it would be great if people could get angry about it and get the law itself amended, it is not the grand theft that some people believe that it is, and that media headlines in both English and Japanese have suggested.

  • vonjunk

    I have read some grave misunderstandings people have been posting:

    1. Some permanent residents of Japan are born there and have lived there their whole lives. I know, as my wife is a South Korean citizen, but THIRD generation born and raised in Japan. She’s worked in Japan her whole life. What could happen is that if she has financial trouble she is not entitled and will be denied fair treatment and coverage under Japanese law. She cannot go to South Korea, as she doesn’t speak Korean, isn’t part of society and doesn’t have a SS number for Korea.

    2. If you are long-term or permanent you have lived in Japan a long time. To do so, you would have needed to either A. work there a long time or B. married someone who is Japanese. In both cases, you should be treated like a person from Japan. Again, bad ruling to treat foreigners differently, as the public services will no doubt start to stop all payments to foreigners to see what they can get away with.

    3. To become a Japanese national one has to A. become better at Japanese than most Japanese natives B. pay a lot of money for a lawyer to do a lot of special work to get it done, usually taking 5 years C. drop any other nationality and D. change your name to a proper Japanese name. Not an easy task and it really discourages from anyone attempting it.

    Bad bad bad ruling! It sets a precedent to start squeezing foreign people who have lived and contributed to Japanese society for a long time. It will once more treat people from other countries and even people who are born in Japan to foreign parents and lived in Japan their whole lives like second class in the system. Terrible ruling!

  • vonjunk

    I want to know if he was born in Japan and lived there most of his life as a permanent resident. He mostly worked and paid taxes, why should he be treated differently?

  • Sasori

    What else would you expect? What is frustrating is that puff-ball stories about shibuya crossing and mount fuji enable Japan to mascarade as this wonderland full of lofty and poetic sentiment to the rest of the world. If one comes here on vacation for a couple of weeks, they leave believing, and expounding the hype.
    Three months in as a resident finds one hardly blinkng twice at a story like this. All you can say is, “typical”.

  • Tim Johnston

    I’m stunned!