What does 95% certainty of warming mean?

Gold standard for scientists is just fodder for skeptics

by Seth Borenstein

AP

Top scientists from a variety of fields say they are about as certain that global warming is a real, man-made threat as they are that cigarettes kill.

They are as sure about climate change as they are about the age of the universe. And they are more certain about climate change than they are that vitamins make you healthy or that dioxin in Superfund sites is dangerous.

They’ll even put a number on how certain they are about climate change. But that number isn’t 100 percent — it’s 95 percent. And for some nonscientists, that’s just not good enough.

There’s a mismatch between what scientists say about how certain they are and what the general public thinks the experts mean, experts say.

That is an issue because this week, scientists from around the world have gathered in Stockholm for a meeting of a U.N. panel on climate change, and they will probably issue a report saying it is “extremely likely” — which they define in footnotes as 95 percent certain — that humans are mostly to blame for temperatures that have climbed since 1951.

One climate scientist involved says the panel may even boost it in some places to “virtually certain” and 99 percent.

Some climate-change deniers have looked at 95 percent and scoffed. After all, most people wouldn’t get on a plane that had only a 95 percent certainty of landing safely, risk experts say.

But in science, 95 percent is often considered the gold standard for certainty.

“Uncertainty is inherent in every scientific judgment,” said Johns Hopkins University epidemiologist Thomas Burke. “Will the sun come up in the morning? Scientists know the answer is yes, but they can’t really say so with 100 percent certainty because there are so many factors out there that are not quite understood or under control.”

George Gray, director of the Center for Risk Science and Public Health at George Washington University, said that demanding absolute proof on things such as climate doesn’t make sense.

“There’s a group of people who seem to think that when scientists say they are uncertain, we shouldn’t do anything,” said Gray, who was chief scientist for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency during the George W. Bush administration. “That’s crazy. We’re uncertain and we buy insurance.”

With the U.N. panel about to weigh in on the effects of greenhouse gas emissions from the burning of oil, coal and gas, The Associated Press asked scientists who specialize in climate, physics, epidemiology, public health, statistics and risk just what in science is more certain than human-caused climate change, what is about the same, and what is less.

They said gravity is a good example of something more certain than climate change. Climate change “is not as sure as if you drop a stone it will hit the Earth,” Princeton University climate scientist Michael Oppenheimer said. “It’s not certain, but it’s close.”

Arizona State University physicist Lawrence Krauss said the 95 percent quoted for climate change is equivalent to the current certainty among physicists that the universe is 13.8 billion years old.

The president of the prestigious National Academy of Sciences, Ralph Cicerone, and more than a dozen other scientists contacted by the AP said the 95 percent certainty regarding climate change is most similar to the confidence scientists have in the decades’ worth of evidence that cigarettes are deadly.

“What is understood does not violate any mechanism that we understand about cancer,” while “statistics confirm what we know about cancer,” said Cicerone, an atmospheric scientist. Add to that a “very high consensus” among scientists about the harm of tobacco, and it sounds similar to the case for climate change, he said.

But even the best study can be nitpicked because nothing is perfect, and that’s the strategy of both tobacco defenders and climate deniers, said Stanton Glantz, a professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, and director of its tobacco control research center.

George Washington’s Gray said the 95 percent number the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change will probably adopt in Stockholm may not be realistic. In general, regardless of the field of research, experts tend to overestimate their confidence in their certainty, he said.

Other experts said the 95 percent figure is too low.

Jeff Severinghaus, a geoscientist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, said that through the use of radioactive isotopes, scientists are more than 99 percent sure that much of the carbon in the air has human fingerprints on it. And because of basic physics, scientists are 99 percent certain that carbon traps heat in the greenhouse effect.

But the role of nature and all sorts of other factors bring the number down to 95 percent when you want to say that the majority of the warming is human-caused, he said.

  • cloa513

    You haven’t talked to any top climate scientist- none of those at the IPCC like Dr Roger Pieke Senior or Junior.
    Skeptics are dispute the 95% because its a work of fantasy- no evidence provided as proof (JT did you miss the part about the gold STANDARD- a statistical standard test- which is not applied) and lots of evidence against. Its like less than 1%- 22 out of 11000 papers searched by the climate alarmists at Skeptical Science actually supported the theory.

  • http://www.sheldonthinks.com/ andrew Sheldon

    Mate, that’s the same type call to ‘action’ that Hitler wanted when he faced opposition. Its not a popularity contest. So we can discount your understanding of morality and science. Facts, action/values; given your disdain for ‘ignorance’, I scantly see much future for you. You are actually treating this like a religion. Perhaps ‘sales’ is your think, given your proclivity for ‘high pressure’ tactics and charming readers.

    • http://www.dadsarmy.co.uk/ GMainwaring

      Godwin’s law? Really, Andrew? Sheesh.

      • http://www.sheldonthinks.com/ andrew Sheldon

        I love how people perpetuate this ludicrous notion that citing Hitler is intrinsically wrong; when common sense would tell them that Hitler is the best understood example, which most people study at school. Perhaps its the only benefit of public education. Your rebuttal I note is absent, because you think straw arguments are a substitute for substantive comment, whether it be incapacity or lazy. If you want to win the debate, you have to earn it.

  • http://www.sheldonthinks.com/ andrew Sheldon

    No, its an analytical appraisal of arguments of facts. Centuries ago ‘classical scientists’ studied fields beyond their immediate specialisation, so they knew other things. Today, scientists take for granted the thinking of others. Science has become an academic bureaucracy reliant on government money. Dire predictions are how you get funding; but fully understand that its not just ‘for the money’; these people, as many of you, are tragic liberals & Conservatives who think humans are greedy, and need to renounce the self. So, on the ‘balance of evidence’, you think, well, maybe humanity needs to wind it back a gear or two…not be so self-important. And you see climate care, like Obamacare, as a way to do that. Basically its a lack of critical thinking…so they conflate correlation and causation. So yes, if they actually did philosophy, they would more critically appraise evidence & arguments. They’d not just appraise their statistical methodology; which they ‘trust’ as causation…as a matter of ‘faith’. So its kind of paradoxical that many of you think people are ‘deniers’ because of faith, when you are simply peddling a different type of mysticism. Given how suxy the world is, by your standards, their might just be gold in that ‘backwards ideology’, or to think the 1% minority are responsible for the current world? Now are you saying the 1% of ‘deniers’ is the world’s richest, because I would suggest its a different 1%. Not that anyone’s ever tested that thesis. Its probably assumed.